COVID19

[morepork]

Measles making a comeback now. Time to pull out that dusty old autism card and get your rage on.

[Which Tyler]

[Son of Mathonwy]

Incredible fake news from the Telegraph. As front page 'news' they dig up a non peer-reviewed working paper from 2022, written by three economists/political scientists which uses a dubious definition of lockdown and some impressive cherry-picking:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... udy-finds/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... -covid-19/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/97056

It's almost as if they have an an anti-lockdown agenda and a desire to distract attention from the covid inquiry's request for data from No 10.

[Which Tyler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65975154

The UK had one of the worst increases in death rates of major European economies during the Covid pandemic, BBC analysis has found.

Death rates in the UK were more than 5% higher on average each year of the pandemic than in the years just before it, largely driven by a huge death toll in the first year.

That was above the increase seen in France, Spain or Germany, but below Italy and significantly lower than the US.
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[Mellsblue]

[morepork]

"experimental reopening of mass cultural events"

are you fucking serious? The general populace as a massive uncontrolled means to test an anecdotal public health hypothesis?

Get to fuck.

[Which Tyler]

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2 ... -symptoms/

COVID patients exhale high numbers of virus during the first eight days after symptoms start, as high as 1,000 copies per minute, reports a new Northwestern Medicine study.

It is the first longitudinal, direct measure of the number of SARS-CoV-2 viral copies exhaled per minute over the course of the infection — from the first sign of symptoms until 20 days after.

On day eight, exhaled levels of virus drop steeply, down to near the limit of detection —an average of two copies exhaled per minute.

[Sandydragon]

So I’ve broken my COVID virginity with a nasty little dose. It properly knocks you for six, even after vaccination and I’d still consider myself fit and healthy. Now the wife has it (I like to share). We’re doing what we consider to be sensible things like not visiting elderly friends and family, but this latest variant could cause some damage given that there’s no restrictions anymore.

[Which Tyler]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

[Sandydragon]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

Yeah, but that’s just the establishment looking after themselves. DOn’t you care about the truth?

[Stom]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

Do you know how much angst this has caused over here?

A Hungarian won the Nobel Prize, wow, amazing.

The Covid vaccine won the Nobel Prize. Boo, hiss. Covid was a hoax.

So, yeah...

[Son of Mathonwy]

Holy crap, I'm in agreement with Dominic Cummings:

Cummings says UK could have avoided lockdown if massive test and trace capacity had been in place by March 2020
Q: At what point did people in government realise that without an effective test and trace system, there was no point trying to control the spread of the virus?

Cummings says at the end of February and the beginning of March people were not anticipating test and trace on a mass scale.

Around 12 March test and trace was in effect stopped.

Q: If an effective test and trace system had been put in place in January, February and March, could a lockdown have been avoided?

Cummings agrees.

He says from the end of December flights to and from China should have been stopped.

He says there should have been a hardcore testing system at airports, and a massive ramping up of testing infrastructure, with millions of tests available, and strict border controls.

If that had happened, there would have been less need for lockdown, he says. He says that would have been a better approach – although he accepts that it would not have been possible to produce this testing capacity “out of thin air”.

Shame he only realised this in retrospect.

Still, hopefully, if anything is learned from the Covid inquiry it's this.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ics-latest

[Son of Mathonwy]

Actually, much of Cummings's evidence is gold, especially on Hancock:

In one message sent in May 2020, Cummings wrote to Boris Johnson:

You need to think through timing of binning Hancock. There’s no way the guy can stay. He’s lied his way through this and killed people and dozens and dozens of people have seen it. He will have to go the question is when and who replaces.

And in another message in August 2020, Cummings said:

I also must stress I think leaving Hancock in post is a big mistake – he is a proven liar who nobody believes or [should] believe on anything, and we face going into autumn crisis with the cunt in charge of NHS still.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ics-latest

[Mellsblue]

By way of giving the UK govt a break from endless (but well deserved) criticisms...

In Scotland, which we know is run by the much more competent Sturgeon with much more clear messaging, ummm:

- 73% of the population of care homes are thought to have the virus but the health Minister can't detail what guidance is given to care homes for dealing with that
- the govt have no idea what our R value is or how it's calculated (or at least, won't tell us)
- Critical Care Consultants in our largest A&E unit have to take to social media to get a response from the govt about actually providing some PPE
- it turns out there was a known outbreak at a conference on 26-27 Feb in Edinburgh which kicked everything into gear so that we banned mass gatherings .... 3 weeks later on the 16th March
- we're at 2500ish tests per day. Yes BJ has been getting pelters for struggling up to 100,000 per day. We are on 2500 per day.

If you're one of those who looks to Sturgeon as a better leader than Johnson, perhaps try and look past the style and spin and look for any substance or actions from her administration.

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This substance or actions?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68032233.amp

[Donny osmond]

Do NOT get me started. The number of times I've had to put my phone down, turn off the radio and sit in a dark, quiet space to try and control how angry I am at that fwcin woman and all her lackeys and the fwcin idiots who chose not to see her for who she really is.....

[Mellsblue]

Do NOT get me started. The number of times I've had to put my phone down, turn off the radio and sit in a dark, quiet space to try and control how angry I am at that fwcin woman and all her lackeys and the fwcin idiots who chose not to see her for who she really is.....

Tell me this is fake.

https://x.com/agentp22/status/174845513 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

[Donny osmond]

It is not fake, no.

[Which Tyler]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -nhs-covid