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Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:51 pm
by Banquo
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:11 pm As I said earlier the selection is far less important than the coaching that's been given over the last two weeks. That's where we stand or fall. We're up against another team with a brand new coach so if we look less sure of what we're doing that's on the coaches.

I would make slightly different choices for 2nd and back rows but I don't think it makes much difference (even if it seems pretty unfair to leave Morgan out completely).

Good to see Owen Williams starting. Better if Patchell was on the bench but Gatland needs his comfort blanket.

The only thing I really disagree with is starting Grady. He's just too green for this and to pair him with another inexperienced centre compounds the problem. I appreciate that no one will be running through this guy but I fear plenty will be running around him or through spaces he should be covering. He hasn't establishing himself at Cardiff yet - it's too soon for a start. At least Tompkins is on the bench, I suppose.
I find it odd that Tompkins hasn't been more involved; he's not a very good outside centre, but he does a terrific job at 12 in defence, in getting past the tackle line, and in all the 'jobs' that centres do these days. You'll also miss Biggar under the high ball- he's prob the best in the world there, esp chasing his own bombs.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 pm
by Sandydragon
UKHamlet wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:59 pm Normally, I would be quite excited with the 9-14 selections, but with everything that's been going on I can't see that the players will be mentally right. That goes doubly for the youngsters. HP is a better choice than Sanjay, who looks a shadow of his bandy legged best, but we need a replacement for the position pronto. Jac Morgan is unlucky. I would have dumped Tips altogether and had Morgan in at 7 with Reffell on the bench. AWJ is cause for concern. Has he passed his MOT?
I hate to say it but there’s every chance that Halfoenny will pull up lane before Saturday. Or within the first 15 mins.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:41 pm
by Spiffy
UKHamlet wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:59 pm Normally, I would be quite excited with the 9-14 selections, but with everything that's been going on I can't see that the players will be mentally right. That goes doubly for the youngsters. HP is a better choice than Sanjay, who looks a shadow of his bandy legged best, but we need a replacement for the position pronto. Jac Morgan is unlucky. I would have dumped Tips altogether and had Morgan in at 7 with Reffell on the bench. AWJ is cause for concern. Has he passed his MOT?
Tips will play a blinder in a Welsh win. Possibly MOTM.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:42 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Banquo wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:51 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:11 pm As I said earlier the selection is far less important than the coaching that's been given over the last two weeks. That's where we stand or fall. We're up against another team with a brand new coach so if we look less sure of what we're doing that's on the coaches.

I would make slightly different choices for 2nd and back rows but I don't think it makes much difference (even if it seems pretty unfair to leave Morgan out completely).

Good to see Owen Williams starting. Better if Patchell was on the bench but Gatland needs his comfort blanket.

The only thing I really disagree with is starting Grady. He's just too green for this and to pair him with another inexperienced centre compounds the problem. I appreciate that no one will be running through this guy but I fear plenty will be running around him or through spaces he should be covering. He hasn't establishing himself at Cardiff yet - it's too soon for a start. At least Tompkins is on the bench, I suppose.
I find it odd that Tompkins hasn't been more involved; he's not a very good outside centre, but he does a terrific job at 12 in defence, in getting past the tackle line, and in all the 'jobs' that centres do these days. You'll also miss Biggar under the high ball- he's prob the best in the world there, esp chasing his own bombs.
Agreed, Biggar's excellent under high ball, up there with Liam Williams (also missing . . . until Halfpenny breaks in training), although it's been a while since he's caught one of his own for Wales (to any great effect, anyway).

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:42 pm
by Mikey Brown
Liam Williams is still good at anything?

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:34 am
by Sandydragon
Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:42 pm Liam Williams is still good at anything?
Not quite the player he was.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:02 pm
by normanski
Sandydragon wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:34 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:42 pm Liam Williams is still good at anything?
Not quite the player he was.
Growing older happens to us all.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:15 pm
by Sandydragon
normanski wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:02 pm
Sandydragon wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:34 am
Mikey Brown wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:42 pm Liam Williams is still good at anything?
Not quite the player he was.
Growing older happens to us all.
F@&king tell me about it.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:44 pm
by Sandydragon
Under 20s are 7-0 down. Blown a decent chance and getting nothing out of the ref.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:46 pm
by Sandydragon
Make that 12-0

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:52 pm
by Sandydragon
12-7. Lovely back of the hand pass to set up a welsh try.

Sadly as I type the welsh team forget that tackling isn’t optional and give away another try

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:55 pm
by Sandydragon
Fourth English try. Far too easy and this could get ugly

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:09 pm
by Sandydragon
14-22 at half time. Some good stuff by wales but discipline and defence must be tighter

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:42 pm
by Sandydragon
Our No8 is like pretty handy. Making some real inroads into the English defence.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:57 pm
by Sandydragon
One try apiece extra. English defence is much better and their tries have been well worked. Second half has been pretty good. Shame we let in a hat trick of tries in quick succession in the first half.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:21 pm
by Sandydragon
21-37 final score and the better team won. Some dubious calls by the ref but England deserved to win this one.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:59 am
by Graigwen
I have bought extra beer for this afternoon's viewing, I think it may be needed.

I still believe an appropriate team has been selected, it should yield information about new players and combinations. This is the position we are in, with some players (eg Morgan) unlucky not to be involved. OK, I would be happier with Leon Brown on the bench.

On the good news front, Halfpenny has not broken down...yet.

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Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:38 am
by normanski
Graigwen wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:59 am
On the good news front, Halfpenny has not broken down...yet.

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It may only be a matter of hours…

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:23 pm
by pompey-zebra
normanski wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:38 am
Graigwen wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:59 am
On the good news front, Halfpenny has not broken down...yet.

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It may only be a matter of hours…
I half expect an announcement that he's picked up an injury as a result of last night's earthquake.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:10 pm
by normanski
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:23 pm
normanski wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:38 am
Graigwen wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:59 am
On the good news front, Halfpenny has not broken down...yet.

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It may only be a matter of hours…
I half expect an announcement that he's picked up an injury as a result of last night's earthquake.
Let’s hope he plays a blinder if he makes it onto the pitch.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:27 pm
by pompey-zebra
normanski wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:10 pm
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:23 pm
normanski wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:38 am

It may only be a matter of hours…
I half expect an announcement that he's picked up an injury as a result of last night's earthquake.
Let’s hope he plays a blinder if he makes it onto the pitch.
Yeah, him and the other 22 in the squad.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 4:39 pm
by normanski
Tackle, tackle and tackle again!

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:05 pm
by normanski
England looking ominous with slick handling.

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:14 pm
by Wallpaperman
Not really seeing anything from Wales other than kicking, then Tomos Williams goes for a run instead of the easy 3 !

Re: Team v SAES

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:16 pm
by Sandydragon
Well we look up for it. Sadly we don’t know what we’re up for.

Kicking is awful.
Attack is non existent.