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Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:02 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:56 am
Win toss, bowl zero luck so far
As I only really follow random updates on Cricinfo while working, I only see numbers. Is Carse actually good enough to be a test match bowler? And surely Woakes is done at this level and we should be giving gametime elsewhere? Is Tongue not potentially good enough?
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:04 pm
by Banquo
Stom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:02 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:56 am
Win toss, bowl zero luck so far
As I only really follow random updates on Cricinfo while working, I only see numbers. Is Carse actually good enough to be a test match bowler? And surely Woakes is done at this level and we should be giving gametime elsewhere? Is Tongue not potentially good enough?
Carse is very much a rhythm and wickets in bursts guy, but bowls one bad ball an over too often
Woakes had zero luck today and bowled very well but he needs ‘conditions’ these days.
Tongue underwhelmed and again too many bad balls
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:07 pm
by Banquo
No luck plus some bad balls for extras wasted new ball
Carse last chance saloon maybe
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:34 pm
by Banquo
Stokes amazing for his injury record.
Crawley great knock but frustrating end
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:21 am
by fivepointer
Terrific test match developing. Stokes put in a great shift and the openers delivered.
Carse does bowl too many bad balls. Maybe we should given Cook a run on a wicket that might have suited him.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:39 am
by Banquo
fivepointer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:21 am
Terrific test match developing. Stokes put in a great shift and the openers delivered.
Carse does bowl too many bad balls. Maybe we should given Cook a run on a wicket that might have suited him.
Gus Atkinson back will help, ditto sick note Wood. What's up with Ollie Robinson- still has a terrific test match record.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 3:49 pm
by Banquo
Kudos to Root, definitely staking a claim to be our best ever batsman, if he isn't already
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:55 pm
by Galfon
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 25, 2025 3:49 pm
Kudos to Root, definitely staking a claim to be our best ever batsman, if he isn't already
Can't argue with his numbers - as to comparing performances in different eras against elite bowling attacks in all corners, it's a bit like discussing climate change.
He's certainly a stayer and wonder if he's having a think about Tendulkar now.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:08 pm
by Banquo
Galfon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:55 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 25, 2025 3:49 pm
Kudos to Root, definitely staking a claim to be our best ever batsman, if he isn't already
Can't argue with his numbers - as to comparing performances in different eras against elite bowling attacks in all corners, it's a bit like discussing climate change.
He's certainly a stayer and wonder if he's having a think about Tendulkar now.
...and consider his ODI record too.
Barrington gets few mentions, but he scored everywhere and against everyone, averaging nearly 59. Onlt slight blip was v Windies Hall/Griffith/Sobers era
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:01 pm
by Banquo
stokes 'cramp' has cramped our style. Think we need a lead of 200+ to get the win.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:46 pm
by fivepointer
Class from Root and a fine knock by Stokes.
Should get a lead in excess of 200 with a bit of biffing tomorrow morning.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:07 pm
by Banquo
Woakes still has a little to say.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:53 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Woakes still has a little to say.
One decent ball and the new batter donating his wicket to a poor, unthreatening ball. Woakes went for another 14 overs without even looking like he might get a wicket.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 10:31 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:53 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Woakes still has a little to say.
One decent ball and the new batter donating his wicket to a poor, unthreatening ball. Woakes went for another 14 overs without even looking like he might get a wicket.
Puja
Hardly, had a few close lbws and was ok on a road. His time has probably come, but fairs fair. And on the latter point he had much in common with the rest of the attack
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:35 am
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 10:31 pm
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:53 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:07 pm
Woakes still has a little to say.
One decent ball and the new batter donating his wicket to a poor, unthreatening ball. Woakes went for another 14 overs without even looking like he might get a wicket.
Puja
Hardly, had a few close lbws and was ok on a road. His time has probably come, but fairs fair.
And on the latter point he had much in common with the rest of the attack
Not wrong on that point. I did like the look of Carse when he first came in, but he's ended up being just not quite good enough for the top level. Dawson demonstrating why the management prefer Bashir - the former is probably a better and more consistent bowler generally, but the latter delivers a far higher percentage of wicket-threatening balls. Archer was a touch unlucky, but lost his way as the day went on as well.
The problem is that we've got one opening bowler in Archer and then we've got three change bowlers and we hope one of them steps up each game - Stokes has the quality, but you can't ask him to do everything and be a main strike bowler as well.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:07 am
by Banquo
Puja wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:35 am
Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 10:31 pm
Puja wrote: ↑Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:53 pm
One decent ball and the new batter donating his wicket to a poor, unthreatening ball. Woakes went for another 14 overs without even looking like he might get a wicket.
Puja
Hardly, had a few close lbws and was ok on a road. His time has probably come, but fairs fair.
And on the latter point he had much in common with the rest of the attack
Not wrong on that point. I did like the look of Carse when he first came in, but he's ended up being just not quite good enough for the top level. Dawson demonstrating why the management prefer Bashir - the former is probably a better and more consistent bowler generally, but the latter delivers a far higher percentage of wicket-threatening balls. Archer was a touch unlucky, but lost his way as the day went on as well.
The problem is that we've got one opening bowler in Archer and then we've got three change bowlers and we hope one of them steps up each game - Stokes has the quality, but you can't ask him to do everything and be a main strike bowler as well.
Puja
aye, as above need Atkinson, Wood poss Robinson around. Rehan Ahmed must be worth another look as well.....113 and 13 wickets in a county match!
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:57 pm
by Banquo
Pitch wins
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:15 am
by Banquo
stokes out. Feels like a drawn series now tbh.
especially with what looks like the worst attack we've fielded in years; no spinner (Root), woakes on last legs, average Overton (averages 31 with the ball in FC cricket !!) , unfit gus and loadsa runs Tongue
. Everything crossed we win the toss and bat big.
Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope (captain), Joe Root, Harry Brook, Jacob Bethell, Jamie Smith (wicketkeeper), Chris Woakes, Gus Atkinson, Jamie Overton, Josh Tongue.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:05 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:15 am
stokes out. Feels like a drawn series now tbh.
especially with what looks like the worst attack we've fielded in years; no spinner (Root), woakes on last legs, average Overton (averages 31 with the ball in FC cricket !!) , unfit gus and loadsa runs Tongue
. Everything crossed we win the toss and bat big.
Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope (captain), Joe Root, Harry Brook, Jacob Bethell, Jamie Smith (wicketkeeper), Chris Woakes, Gus Atkinson, Jamie Overton, Josh Tongue.
Frankly, I'm glad we're not risking Stokes - this game isn't hugely important in the grand scheme and it's not worth damaging him and losing him for the Ashes.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:33 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:05 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 30, 2025 11:15 am
stokes out. Feels like a drawn series now tbh.
especially with what looks like the worst attack we've fielded in years; no spinner (Root), woakes on last legs, average Overton (averages 31 with the ball in FC cricket !!) , unfit gus and loadsa runs Tongue
. Everything crossed we win the toss and bat big.
Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Ollie Pope (captain), Joe Root, Harry Brook, Jacob Bethell, Jamie Smith (wicketkeeper), Chris Woakes, Gus Atkinson, Jamie Overton, Josh Tongue.
Frankly, I'm glad we're not risking Stokes - this game isn't hugely important in the grand scheme and it's not worth damaging him and losing him for the Ashes.
Puja
Oh yes, but it exposes a chunky weakness.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:59 am
by fivepointer
Stokes is a massive loss.
Bethell's a good player but has he actually played any cricket this season?
Several punts with the bowling attack. Here's hoping one or two pay off but it doesnt inspire huge optimism.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:50 am
by Galfon
Surprised by not batting first at Oval - generally good for runs but shows turn by D5.
Will Ind. declare at 600 ?
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:18 am
by Banquo
Galfon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:50 am
Surprised by not batting first at Oval - generally good for runs but shows turn by D5.
Will Ind. declare at 600 ?
indeed, tho gus gus strikes early. Suspect its flat, but v damp and overcast today.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:34 am
by Banquo
woakes pretty rubbish so far replaced by 5 wides from Tongue. All a bit as expected tbh...and 6 more wides and a no ball. FFS 12 off the over.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 12:02 pm
by Banquo
fair play, Tongue has come back well. But we've wasted the shine.
