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Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:11 pm Will Jordan dips below 1 try per test.

Useless! Drop him!

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm

Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:11 pm Will Jordan dips below 1 try per test.

Useless! Drop him!

Puja

He might just be lining up for a hat trick against the Boks.

Top 10 most test caps by an All Black whose brother has more caps

61 Scott Barrett (Beauden 115)
58 Zinzan Brooke (Robin 62)
54 Julian Savea (Ardie 74)
51 Jordie Barrett (Beauden 115, Scott 61)
47 Ben Franks (Owen 108)
35 Alan Whetton (Gary 58)
31 Ian Clarke (Don 31)
21 Akira Ioane (Reiko 62)
15 Stan Meads (Colin 55)
14 Hosea Gear (Rico 19)

Starts for the All Blacks, by jersey number, since RWC2019
(italics = NOT in RWC squad)

1: de Groot 12, Bower 11, Moody 10, Tu'inukuafe 4, Williams 1
2: Taylor 19, Taukei'aho 9, Coles 8, Aumua 2
3: Laulala 16, Lomax 13, Tu'ungfasi 6, Ta'avao 3
4: Retallick 19, Whitelock 7, Tuipulotu 6, S. Barrett 5, Vaa'i 1
5: Whitelock 18, S. Barrett 13, Vaa'i 4, Lord 2, Retallick 1
6: A. Ioane 15, Frizell 13, S. Barrett 3, Blackadder 3, Jacobson 2, Finau 1, Papali'i 1
7: Cane 20, Papali'i 13, Savea 3, Blackadder 2
8: Savea 27, Sotutu 7, Jacobsen 4
9: Smith 24, Perenara 6, Christie 4, Weber 4
10: Mo'unga 22, B. Barrett 13, McKenzie 3
11. Clarke 15, Bridge 9, R.Ioane 5, Reece 4, Fainganuku 3, Telea 2
12: Havili 16, Tupaea 7, J. Barrett 6, Goodhue 5, Lienert-Brown 2, Laumape 1, Tuivasa-Sheck 1
13: R. Ioane 23, Lienert-Brown 11, Ennor 4
14: Jordan 19, Reece 10, J. Barrett 5, Telea 2, Narawa 1, Stevenson 1
15: J. Barrett 19, B. Barrett 10, McKenzie 7, Jordan 1, Perofeta 1
16: Taukei'aho 16, Coles 9, Taylor 8, Aumua 4
17: Bower 11, Tu'inukuafe 10, Tu'ungfasi 6, de Groot 4, Hodgman 4, Moody 1, Williams 1, Ross 1
18: Lomax 12, Laulala 7, Newell 7, 13, Tu'ungfasi 6, Ta'avao 6
19: Vaa'i 18, Tuipulotu 7, S. Barrett 4, Whitelock 3, Retalick 2, A. Ioane 1, Frizell 1, Lord 1, Sowakula 1
20: Papali'i 8, Sotutu 7, Jacobsen 6, A. Ioane 5, Frizell 5, Blackadder 4, Sowakula 1, Cane 1, Grace 1
21: Christie 14, Perenara 10, Weber 9, Smith 2, Fakatava 2, Roigard 1
22: B. Barrett 9, Mo'unga 9, McKenzie 6, Havili 4, Perofeta 2, R. Ioane 2, Lienert-Brown 2, Ennor 1, Laumape 1, Tuivasa-sheck 1, Umaga-Jensen 1
23: Tupaea 7, Lienert-Brown 4, J. Barrett 4, Jordan 4, McKenzie 3, R. Ioane 3, Ennor 3, Clarke 3, Havili 2, Reece 2, Tuivasa-Sheck 1, Bridge 1, McLeod 1

Drop Goals by players in the All Blacks RWC squad
B Barrett - 3

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:13 pm

Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:11 pm Will Jordan dips below 1 try per test.

Useless! Drop him!

Puja

After 3 consecutive tryless tests (Aus, SA, Fra), Jordan bags a brace to begin his redemption. Now 25 in 27 caps. If he plays against Uruguay he might get back to 100%. He's nearer 26 than 25, so now seems unlikely to break Howlett's record.

Beauden Barret is 7 behind Howlett, so has a chance, but at his current rate he would need to play through to about RWC 2027.

Mark Telea has entered the ring though, with 6 from 6...

Jordan up to 27 tries in 28 tests

Lizard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:39 am Jordan up to 27 tries in 28 tests

28 in 29….

I reckon he'll probably move to full back after the WC. It will probably increase his longevity but reduce his strike rate. What's the best strike rate for an All Black playing full back (Christian Cullen? Ben Smith?).

Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:37 pm

Lizard wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:39 am Jordan up to 27 tries in 28 tests

28 in 29….

Updates ahoy

Mo'unga....you silly sausage.

Jordan’s 31 tries is the 2nd best return ever from 30 caps:

Ohata (JPN): 35
Jordan (NZ): 31
Rokocoko (NZ): 30
Piossek (Arg), J Savea (NZ), Tabutsadze (Geo): 29

The only member of the New Zealand RWC2023 squad that has dropped a goal in a test match is B Barrett, twice in 2018 and once last year.

Will Jordan now has 38 tries in 41 tests. His scoring rate has dipped a bit. He’ll be 27 before he plays another test so he might be about to drop off the cliff in the time-honoured All Black manner.

Beauden Barrett also scored his 46th try, moving ahead of Jeff Wilson into 5th on the All Blacks all time scoring list behind only Howlett (49), and Cullen/Rokocoko/Savea (46). Barrett has played more tests than any two of those players ahead of him combined.

I know it’s just me being an old git, but Jordan moving past Lomu doesn’t feel quite right. He just doesn’t seem to have the, is gravitas the right word?

canta_brian wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:49 pm I know it’s just me being an old git, but Jordan moving past Lomu doesn’t feel quite right. He just doesn’t seem to have the, is gravitas the right word?

Jonah changed rugby forever.

Jordan is just a good finisher. Like, a really good finisher. But he’s not going to change the sport.