Re: New and Improved EPS Watch/Player Form Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:37 pm
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It's the second Lions Tour in a row where's he declined the invitation to join as an assistant having also coached with the Lions previously. Good sign that he's so sort after by his peers. I wouldn't be surprised if other England coaches aren't given the chance, Felix Jones in particular should have a great chance at going.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:00 pm Shiny Baldpatch has pre-emptively declined any approach to join the Lions in Australia, which I am thoroughly pleased about. I enjoy the Lions a lot and want as many of our players involved as possible, but the rebuild of England is at too early a stage to lose our coach for a time or have his attention divided. I suspect he's got a plan for the next 4 years and I don't want anything getting in the way of that.
Puja
I'm hopeful he won't go either - our defence could be our USP and I don't particularly want it being taught to the other home nations.FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:08 amIt's the second Lions Tour in a row where's he declined the invitation to join as an assistant having also coached with the Lions previously. Good sign that he's so sort after by his peers. I wouldn't be surprised if other England coaches aren't given the chance, Felix Jones in particular should have a great chance at going.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:00 pm Shiny Baldpatch has pre-emptively declined any approach to join the Lions in Australia, which I am thoroughly pleased about. I enjoy the Lions a lot and want as many of our players involved as possible, but the rebuild of England is at too early a stage to lose our coach for a time or have his attention divided. I suspect he's got a plan for the next 4 years and I don't want anything getting in the way of that.
Puja
It's a great learning experience for a coach though and I'd rather see our coaches develop and improve over this world cup cycle. It's not like Jones defensive style is a particularly new concept either. The other nations have years of analysis of how it's implemented. I'd rather Jones felt valued and that England were backing his development.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:36 amI'm hopeful he won't go either - our defence could be our USP and I don't particularly want it being taught to the other home nations.FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:08 amIt's the second Lions Tour in a row where's he declined the invitation to join as an assistant having also coached with the Lions previously. Good sign that he's so sort after by his peers. I wouldn't be surprised if other England coaches aren't given the chance, Felix Jones in particular should have a great chance at going.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:00 pm Shiny Baldpatch has pre-emptively declined any approach to join the Lions in Australia, which I am thoroughly pleased about. I enjoy the Lions a lot and want as many of our players involved as possible, but the rebuild of England is at too early a stage to lose our coach for a time or have his attention divided. I suspect he's got a plan for the next 4 years and I don't want anything getting in the way of that.
Puja
Puja
I hope Felix doesn't go, largely because his defensive system is not an overnight fix. I really don't think it would suit the Lions and the amount of time & matches they have together (far less so than SE's)...Puja wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:36 amI'm hopeful he won't go either - our defence could be our USP and I don't particularly want it being taught to the other home nations.FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:08 amIt's the second Lions Tour in a row where's he declined the invitation to join as an assistant having also coached with the Lions previously. Good sign that he's so sort after by his peers. I wouldn't be surprised if other England coaches aren't given the chance, Felix Jones in particular should have a great chance at going.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:00 pm Shiny Baldpatch has pre-emptively declined any approach to join the Lions in Australia, which I am thoroughly pleased about. I enjoy the Lions a lot and want as many of our players involved as possible, but the rebuild of England is at too early a stage to lose our coach for a time or have his attention divided. I suspect he's got a plan for the next 4 years and I don't want anything getting in the way of that.
Puja
Puja
One advantage of that would be an ambassador convincing JWillis to come back in 2026 for a crack at the RWC. Although I suppose, if we keep improving at our current rate, there'll be more than a few England players to make that argument too.
Definite future coach.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:43 am Didn't deserve its own thread but I liked this little snippet from Ford.
It's been a thing for a while where people talk as if the backs have little to do with creating quick ball in the first place, unless you've got an Esterhuizen or a Manu.
Interesting and agree it’s an almost certainty with GF.FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:04 pm I suspect Youngs and Ford will both end up as coaches. Youngs is surprisingly insightful, not sure he's head coach material though. Skills or attack coach maybe. Rumours are Ford is effectively a player coach already and I think Borthwick referred to him as a coach on the pitch when at Tigers. He seems a likely head coach of the future though given it's the family business, not much of a surprise.
Yeah, I really didn't have him down as one before his podcast. Showed some interesting takes on the game there. Still don't think he'll be a head coach type but a backs or skills coach maybe.pjm1 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:12 amInteresting and agree it’s an almost certainty with GF.FKAS wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:04 pm I suspect Youngs and Ford will both end up as coaches. Youngs is surprisingly insightful, not sure he's head coach material though. Skills or attack coach maybe. Rumours are Ford is effectively a player coach already and I think Borthwick referred to him as a coach on the pitch when at Tigers. He seems a likely head coach of the future though given it's the family business, not much of a surprise.
Now, coaches don’t have to be intellectual geniuses but I think it is essential that they can tie their own shoelaces and have an IQ in spitting distance of 90, so not convinced on the BY argument…
England have played South Africa, Ireland and France over the past eight months, in addition to two games against New Zealand. The aggregate score against these top four sides in the world is 101-111, with one narrow win and four narrow defeats.
Overall I’m pretty happy with where have advanced in the last year. I’ve actually enjoyed watching them again.“We are definitely trending in the right direction,” vice-captain Henry Slade said.
“We are pushing the top four sides now and getting better and better week by week.”
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:10 am I thought this was a semi-interesting stat.
England have played South Africa, Ireland and France over the past eight months, in addition to two games against New Zealand. The aggregate score against these top four sides in the world is 101-111, with one narrow win and four narrow defeats.
Plus Slade completing his transformation into Owen Farrell
Overall I’m pretty happy with where have advanced in the last year. I’ve actually enjoyed watching them again.“We are definitely trending in the right direction,” vice-captain Henry Slade said.
“We are pushing the top four sides now and getting better and better week by week.”
Tough fixtures in 2025 though - Ireland away on the first Sunday then a six day turnaround to France at home.
Unusual too. The Irish normally like to host us on the St Patrick’s day weekend.LongForgotten wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:35 amTough fixtures in 2025 though - Ireland away on the first Sunday then a six day turnaround to France at home.