America

[Mikey Brown]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

[Digby]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

It sort of is give gun sales are way down under Trump, indeed I think Remmington has just filed for Chapter 11 to dodge monies owed. The NRA had managed to drive gun sales up under Obama by making people afraid Obama was coming to take their guns, when in reality Obama was as much a failure to act as any other president has been, but with Trump installed the fears over the 2nd amendment have fallen and with it gun sales.

However, the only sensible end scenario is going to take a long, long time to play out simply with falling gun sales. Someone at some point has got to put them on course to criminalise gun possession and really start to take huge number of guns across the board off the streets, and do that even though some people quite understandably like guns and are politically driven, zealots even, well organised and well funded. Trump's not going to do that, and so far nobody else has been willing to put gun legislation above their own career in politics.

The latest, well it's awful, but everyday there's gun violence in the USA even when there aren't the major stories breaking

[OptimisticJock]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?

[Stones of granite]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.

Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...

[SerjeantWildgoose]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.

Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...

Right Pat. That's the second time you've been caught selling blow on school grounds so its a Saturday detention. Get caught again and its your kneeecaps.

[Stones of granite]

What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?

Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.

[Digby]

So, the gun problem hasn’t fixed itself then.

18 times this year a weapon has been discharged on school grounds.

Could be worse, the teachers could have guns...

Baiting and even openly mocking teachers during school would take on a whole new level of risk, as would claiming the dog ate your homework

[SerjeantWildgoose]

What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?

Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.

To be fair, Boeing doesn't maintain an influential lobbying campaign to defend people's rights to fly their products into skyscrapers. I've been to Seattle, by the way. They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.

[Mellsblue]

What I don't get is that if an IS-inspired loon walked into an American high school and murdered 17 kids, they would lose no time in bombing the crap out of the Tallybob, Syria and North Korea (Just in case).

Given that this particular loon committed his hideous morning's work under the protection of the NRA and the 2nd Amendment, why is there not, at this very moment, a couple of Predators circling Wayne LaPierre's house and why havn't Colt, Armalite and Smith and Wesson been flattened under a deluge of Raytheon Tomahawks?

Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.

They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.

Might as well bomb most of the U.K. then.

[Stones of granite]

Confusing, isn't it. Mind you, following 9/11, they found somewhere else to bomb instead of obliterating the Boeing factory and the rest of Seattle with it.

They should bomb the fecking place. It never stops pissing down and the only refuge is an endless parade of shit coffee shops.

Might as well bomb most of the U.K. then.

Shit coffee shops aren't the only refuge from pissing rain where I live. There are some shit pubs too.

[WaspInWales]

Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.

[Stones of granite]

Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.

Perhaps they should ban it.

[WaspInWales]

Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.

Perhaps they should ban it.

Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.

[morepork]

He got pushed into deregulating the role of mental health in background checks for gun sales in Febuary last year. I can't think of a more inappropriate contributor to the dialogue than that repulsive fuckwit. I don't know how many dozens of kids have been murdered by assault rifles this year, but fuck me....it's too much.

[Stones of granite]

Guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness apparently.

Perhaps they should ban it.

Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.

Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers I get, but teachers? I thought we were trying to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues.

[morepork]

Fucking hipsters...

[WaspInWales]

Perhaps they should ban it.

Nah, guns can beat the nut cases.

Just need more guns. Teachers, Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers should all be carrying.

We have public places with defibrillators in the UK, perhaps in the US, they should have a loaded weapon in a box at the end of every street so a have-a-go hero can save the day. In order to stop the mental people getting access, just have a simple unlocking device which asks "are you mental?" Once you confirm you're not mental, away you go and save the day....or just shoot a load of people.

Starbucks baristas, street mime artists and professional dog walkers I get, but teachers? I thought we were trying to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental health issues.

Good point, teaching assistants then.

[Stones of granite]

Fucking hipsters...

They should arm fucking hipsters?

Can you imagine? They'd be walking around with guns like these

[morepork]

Their noodle tattooed arms would not be able to lift those without trembling.

[Stones of granite]

Their noodle tattooed arms would not be able to lift those without trembling.

Something like this?

[Mellsblue]

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[WaspInWales]

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Proves mental illness must be contagious.

[Banquo]

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Proves mental illness must be contagious.

It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health

[Mellsblue]

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Proves mental illness must be contagious.

It'll certainly take that c*nt ages to work out its guns, not mental health

It’s both, but one can easily be solved by the legislature whilst the other can’t.