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Re: Lions

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:18 pm
by switchskier
whatisthejava wrote:Telegraph just posted their 37 man Lions team

Hogg and Wp only 2 scots

I think the Gray brothers are a little unfortunate but without 3 wins and that all important win over Wales in the 6N that may be it.

Not sure why Wales have 10 players though, they look completely feckless right now , Ireland and England are so far ahead of us and Wales
14 tackles (most in the game) with none missed, 12 carries (second most in the game to Matera) and the motm award for Gray jr yesterday. At one point Mossy claimed that he has gone over 100 tackles without missing one for Glasgow. More than any scot he should be on the plane to NZ. Him and Ijote going up against Retallick and Whitelock would be an utterly fantastic battle. Going to be massively disappointed when Gatland inevitably selects AWJ and Charteris ahead of him.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:46 pm
by Mikey Brown
I'm an England fan who is so happy to have Launch, Itoje and Kruis but I would take Jonny Gray every day of the week.

You could probably pick him and Itoje for the next 3 tours if for some reason that demand was put to you.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:49 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
whatisthejava wrote:Telegraph just posted their 37 man Lions team

Hogg and Wp only 2 scots

I think the Gray brothers are a little unfortunate but without 3 wins and that all important win over Wales in the 6N that may be it.

Not sure why Wales have 10 players though, they look completely feckless right now , Ireland and England are so far ahead of us and Wales
10? That's utterly bizarrely. Right now I'd have significantly more scots than welsh.

Re: Lions

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:14 pm
by whatisthejava
It's a bit weird, Webb, Davies, Warburton, North and g Jenkins all in with very little form to deserve it.

Re: Lions

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:47 am
by Matt Ha
whatisthejava wrote:It's a bit weird, Webb, Davies, Warburton, North and g Jenkins all in with very little form to deserve it.
H'penny is also listed, which is rather generous. An excellent player but he was out for ages with injury and is only slowly rediscovering form.

Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:40 pm
by joshfishkins
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Telegraph just posted their 37 man Lions team

Hogg and Wp only 2 scots

I think the Gray brothers are a little unfortunate but without 3 wins and that all important win over Wales in the 6N that may be it.

Not sure why Wales have 10 players though, they look completely feckless right now , Ireland and England are so far ahead of us and Wales
10? That's utterly bizarrely. Right now I'd have significantly more scots than welsh.
Don't think any Welsh folk on here will disagree. We have been dire for about 2 yrs now.

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Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:47 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
joshfishkins wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:Telegraph just posted their 37 man Lions team

Hogg and Wp only 2 scots

I think the Gray brothers are a little unfortunate but without 3 wins and that all important win over Wales in the 6N that may be it.

Not sure why Wales have 10 players though, they look completely feckless right now , Ireland and England are so far ahead of us and Wales
10? That's utterly bizarrely. Right now I'd have significantly more scots than welsh.
Don't think any Welsh folk on here will disagree. We have been dire for about 2 yrs now.

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Who would you take from Wales? AWJ is your best player but in an area of real strength. Webb at 9 isn't useless, which puts him ahead of most. Scott Williams I'm a massive fan of and I might take him. Liam Williams isn't in his best form but might go. Halfpenny gives you kicking option away from 10. North WAS excellent once upon a time. Er... Who the hell else are they taking?

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:09 am
by cashead
Unless they get injured or die, Gatland will probably take AWJ, Webb, Halfpenny and probably Warburton at least.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:03 am
by whatisthejava
I don't see any reason to take AWJ, plenty experience around the pack and plenty other options.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:26 am
by joshfishkins
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
joshfishkins wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote: 10? That's utterly bizarrely. Right now I'd have significantly more scots than welsh.
Don't think any Welsh folk on here will disagree. We have been dire for about 2 yrs now.

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Who would you take from Wales? AWJ is your best player but in an area of real strength. Webb at 9 isn't useless, which puts him ahead of most. Scott Williams I'm a massive fan of and I might take him. Liam Williams isn't in his best form but might go. Halfpenny gives you kicking option away from 10. North WAS excellent once upon a time. Er... Who the hell else are they taking?
I'd take AWJ, Liam Williams, Halfpenn, Tipuric .
Gatland will take the first three plus Warburton, Gethin, Roberts, JD and North.

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Re: RE: Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:02 am
by bruce
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
joshfishkins wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote: 10? That's utterly bizarrely. Right now I'd have significantly more scots than welsh.
Don't think any Welsh folk on here will disagree. We have been dire for about 2 yrs now.

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Who would you take from Wales? AWJ is your best player but in an area of real strength. Webb at 9 isn't useless, which puts him ahead of most. Scott Williams I'm a massive fan of and I might take him. Liam Williams isn't in his best form but might go. Halfpenny gives you kicking option away from 10. North WAS excellent once upon a time. Er... Who the hell else are they taking?
I would say our only nailed on player, for my money best FB in NH, so if that is not his best form there should only be better things to come.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:26 am
by Big D
A lot will depend on who the starting 10 is likely to be. If it is Ford, then Farrell or 1/2P will need to play.

10 is going to be interesting. I am not sure Sextons body will hold up on a Lions tour he seems to get injured a lot these days.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:25 pm
by whatisthejava
Big D wrote:A lot will depend on who the starting 10 is likely to be. If it is Ford, then Farrell or 1/2P will need to play.

10 is going to be interesting. I am not sure Sextons body will hold up on a Lions tour he seems to get injured a lot these days.
He tends to use his head to tackle

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:26 pm
by whatisthejava
The 3 tens on tour will be

Ford
Bigger
Sexton

I don't think Bigger deserves it but Gatland will pick his own players in every 50/50

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:48 pm
by Big D
whatisthejava wrote:The 3 tens on tour will be

Ford
Bigger
Sexton

I don't think Bigger deserves it but Gatland will pick his own players in every 50/50
I think it will be Ford, Farrell and Sexton.

Really 10 will dictate a lot of other positions. If Ford is picked then Farrell or 1/2P probably need to play too.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:18 pm
by whatisthejava
2 things are certain
1 you don't beat the all blacks by kicking penalties
2 u don't make friends with salad.

Both suggest there is no need to take 1/2p

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:08 pm
by Mikey Brown
We could probably make a gentleman's agreement with Barrett to just forego kicking entirely.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 pm
by Cameo
On the off topic of welsh players, I dont understand how Scott Williams doesnt start every week for them. No less solid than the others but a lot more creative.

Halfpenny will go but I dont really see the point. Not that he's not a good player but I want Lions outside backs to e capable of something spectacular

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:43 pm
by cashead
I will legit laugh my dick off if Gatland does a Woodward and ignores 6 Nations form in favour of picking his boys.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:47 pm
by whatisthejava
cashead wrote:I will legit laugh my dick off if Gatland does a Woodward and ignores 6 Nations form in favour of picking his boys.
Start laughing now, he will do it

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:48 pm
by cashead
Oh no! My wee-wee!

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:59 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
cashead wrote:Oh no! My wee-wee!
I hope you didn't need that.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:18 pm
by ARM
If we want more than a couple of players, team prob needs to have a winning season in the 6N - ie three wins. Have to beat the Welsh this year - don't think we have ever beaten them under Gatland? So it's easy to see why there may be lack of respect there.

Would also help Glasgow players if they can get out of their Euro group.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:16 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
I'd forgotten about Faletau. I'd definitely take him.

Re: Lions

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:31 pm
by cashead
The Home Unions are pretty spoilt for choice for quality 8s. Vunipola's been in great form, Faletau is a quality 8 and Heaslip has been great for the last couple of years. How are the Scottish options doing?