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Do wish the UK to remain part of the European Union?

Poll ended at Sat May 07, 2016 12:06 pm

Yes - I want to stay part of the European Union
19
68%
No - I want to leave the European Union
9
32%
Meh
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 28

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I always wondered what it would take to end the Sterling as a credible reserve currency.

Apparently a popular vote for an economically moronic outcome will do it.

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Lots o f people were shouted down as scaremongering during the ref... We're about to find out if they were just mongering scares or being accurate.
It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Gerald Davies, what was he doing there?!
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My hope is that politicians in the UK and Europe now act like adults and not spoils children. There is no need for this to be a disaster, unless they choose to make it so.


I'll pack my tin hat just in case...
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Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?
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Surprised by the results. This could be a good result for the EU building process, but could also go very wrong.

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BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.
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Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.

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Sandydragon wrote:My hope is that politicians in the UK and Europe now act like adults and not spoils children. There is no need for this to be a disaster, unless they choose to make it so.


I'll pack my tin hat just in case...
Absolutely this. There will be a mature discussion because there has to be.
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Billyfish wrote:BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.
It is on a par with Black Wednesday in economic impact terms, so that's about right in my view.

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Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
Bonus!
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canta_brian wrote:
Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?
A couple of newspapers aside yes.
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Zhivago wrote:
Billyfish wrote:BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.
It is on a par with Black Wednesday in economic impact terms, so that's about right in my view.
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jared_7 wrote:For reference, both Paddy Power and Betfair have live odds as 7/1 (8.00) for Brexit, 1/12 (1.08) fro Remain.

Heavily one sided.
Well, someone made some good coin, although that coin is next to worthless now.
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It's not just the pound that's down, Brent Crude is down over 5% this morning, which is both surprising and alarming.
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Good old UK. Less plebiscite, more plebicide.
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Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
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Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
Gerald Davies, what was he doing there?!
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Billyfish wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
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cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
Sandydragon wrote: I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.
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Billyfish wrote:
cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.
I guess if there is at least one positive to take out of this, he's left the Tories a potential dumpster fire of a party.
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Alls I want to know at this stage is: when would it be the right time to start going through my Amazon and Book Depository wish lists?
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What the fuck have we done. Holy shit.
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cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
cashead wrote:
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.
I guess if there is at least one positive to take out of this, he's left the Tories a potential dumpster fire of a party.
The dumpster fire will probably result in Michael Gove taking charge, and he'll make Cameron look like Bernie f*cking Sanders.
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canta_brian wrote:
Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?
well quite..the media were pretty pro brexit on the whole, certainly mass circulation papers.
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