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Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:20 am
by Lizard
I always wondered what it would take to end the Sterling as a credible reserve currency.

Apparently a popular vote for an economically moronic outcome will do it.

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Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:24 am
by Donny osmond
Lots o f people were shouted down as scaremongering during the ref... We're about to find out if they were just mongering scares or being accurate.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:35 am
by Billyfish
Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:41 am
by Sandydragon
My hope is that politicians in the UK and Europe now act like adults and not spoils children. There is no need for this to be a disaster, unless they choose to make it so.


I'll pack my tin hat just in case...

Re: RE: Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:55 am
by canta_brian
Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:59 am
by Adder
Surprised by the results. This could be a good result for the EU building process, but could also go very wrong.

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Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:03 am
by Billyfish
BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:05 am
by Zhivago
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:06 am
by Billyfish
Sandydragon wrote:My hope is that politicians in the UK and Europe now act like adults and not spoils children. There is no need for this to be a disaster, unless they choose to make it so.


I'll pack my tin hat just in case...
Absolutely this. There will be a mature discussion because there has to be.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:06 am
by Zhivago
Billyfish wrote:BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.
It is on a par with Black Wednesday in economic impact terms, so that's about right in my view.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:07 am
by Billyfish
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
Bonus!

Re: RE: Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:08 am
by Billyfish
canta_brian wrote:
Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?
A couple of newspapers aside yes.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:17 am
by Billyfish
Zhivago wrote:
Billyfish wrote:BBC reporting it like it's a nation disaster. Hilarious.
It is on a par with Black Wednesday in economic impact terms, so that's about right in my view.
Don't Panic!

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:19 am
by jared_7
jared_7 wrote:For reference, both Paddy Power and Betfair have live odds as 7/1 (8.00) for Brexit, 1/12 (1.08) fro Remain.

Heavily one sided.
Well, someone made some good coin, although that coin is next to worthless now.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:22 am
by Stones of granite
It's not just the pound that's down, Brent Crude is down over 5% this morning, which is both surprising and alarming.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:27 am
by canta_brian
Good old UK. Less plebiscite, more plebicide.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:20 am
by Sandydragon
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:31 am
by Billyfish
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:I didn't think it would happen, but there we go. The groundswell of public discontent was always there but I did wonder if people would take the plunge or not. The really interesting thing about all this is the political convergence. Brexit was popular in labour heartlands as well as Tory safe seats. No surprise that Scotland voted to remain, but Wales!

There are some very sour looking politicians on tv at the moment.
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:39 am
by cashead
Billyfish wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
This is the beginning of the end of the UK. Welcome to your future country of England and Wales.
I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:53 am
by Billyfish
cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
Sandydragon wrote: I don't want the Scots to leave, but if that's what they really want, good luck to them.

Cameron now talking, this sounds like a resignation.
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:55 am
by cashead
Billyfish wrote:
cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
Resigning. Don't think that's a good decision for immediate stability.
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.
I guess if there is at least one positive to take out of this, he's left the Tories a potential dumpster fire of a party.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:57 am
by cashead
Alls I want to know at this stage is: when would it be the right time to start going through my Amazon and Book Depository wish lists?

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:00 am
by twitchy
What the fuck have we done. Holy shit.

Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:10 am
by jared_7
cashead wrote:
Billyfish wrote:
cashead wrote:
If the referendum results went against the Remain option, his days as PM were numbered, and welp. I guess the only real surprise is how quick it really was.
Very true, but that didn't necessarily meant he had to announce this now. There is plainly going to be a lot of work to do, a leadership election is a distraction. Also, as that 2@ IDS said a while back in a moment of clarity, the divisive and hysterical nature of the Remain campaign will have consequences after the result for unity within the Conservative Party; they are at each other's throats just when they should be pulling together and that helps nobody.
I guess if there is at least one positive to take out of this, he's left the Tories a potential dumpster fire of a party.
The dumpster fire will probably result in Michael Gove taking charge, and he'll make Cameron look like Bernie f*cking Sanders.

Re: RE: Re: Europe - in or out - RR Votes

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:23 am
by Banquo
canta_brian wrote:
Billyfish wrote:Blydi marvellous. Against a tide of misinformation, media bias and scaremongering. Welcome to the new world, let the fake panic begin.
Sorry, you think this result went against the tide of media bias?
well quite..the media were pretty pro brexit on the whole, certainly mass circulation papers.