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https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

Or worse:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

Stom wrote:https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

Or worse:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

fair enough, bizarre he wasn't picked, when Ward was.

Banquo wrote:FFS

This. Can’t we find a bot that just posts this in the middle of every session? Would make life easier

you'd normally settle for 76-2 when being put in. But losing Root makes it much worse.

Banquo wrote:

Stom wrote:https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

Or worse:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/155 ... eland-2001

fair enough, bizarre he wasn't picked, when Ward was.

was this when he was having 'marital strife'?

Banquo wrote:you'd normally settle for 76-2 when being put in. But losing Root makes it much worse.

Yep, one down would have been our session. 2 makes it about level pegging.

You can't have a collapse without something there in the first place - 85-2 gives the team something to work on. Go Burnley!

Galfon wrote:You can't have a collapse without something there in the first place - 85-2 gives the team something to work on. Go Burnley!

nicely jinxed

Banquo wrote:

Galfon wrote:You can't have a collapse without something there in the first place - 85-2 gives the team something to work on. Go Burnley!

nicely jinxed

Buttler gets off the mark with 5.

ffs

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Buttler is obviously batting two places too high. 92-2 to 136-5, they are just pathetic

A couple more quick wickets and we can say job-done..
Just not fair for Boyc's digestive system is this.

Galfon wrote:A couple more quick wickets and we can say job-done..
Just not fair for Boyc's digestive system is this.

doing a great job talking them out today. Bye Ben.

Terrible batting- genuinely can't see how we sort this out, its a mental collapse imo

Banquo wrote:

Galfon wrote:A couple more quick wickets and we can say job-done..
Just not fair for Boyc's digestive system is this.

doing a great job talking them out today. Bye Ben.

Terrible batting- genuinely can't see how we sort this out, its a mental collapse imo

Bayliss will be gone soon, that'll help.

Stom wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Galfon wrote:A couple more quick wickets and we can say job-done..
Just not fair for Boyc's digestive system is this.

doing a great job talking them out today. Bye Ben.

Terrible batting- genuinely can't see how we sort this out, its a mental collapse imo

Bayliss will be gone soon, that'll help.

You keep saying this, but see earlier comments about quality of batsmen available.

Broakes usually shows resolve, but there is chance here for some redemption for keeper/batsman#1..

Galfon wrote:Broakes usually shows resolve, but there is chance here for some redemption for keeper/batsman#1..

yep.

If we can somehow hang in, there will be some very tired Aussie bowlers come the last hour.....

(clutches at straws)

Think its time to stop booing Smith, only makes him better. Carry on booing Warner as has always been the thing to do

Hopefully Bairstow clicks and digs in here. Big knock could kickstart a stalling career.

Get the guys in who have scored in CC1. Sibley for certain and maybe Northeast. At least they have scores in red ball cricket.

Too easy to say these guys aren't good enough. Especially when the incumbents aren't performing. Was fortunate enough to be in hospitality at the rained off game at old trafford on Friday and was chatting to guys in there and most thought Sibley deserves a crack based on this seasons form.

Big D wrote:Hopefully Bairstow clicks and digs in here. Big knock could kickstart a stalling career.

Get the guys in who have scored in CC1. Sibley for certain and maybe Northeast. At least they have scores in red ball cricket.

Too easy to say these guys aren't good enough. Especially when the incumbents aren't performing. Was fortunate enough to be in hospitality at the rained off game at old trafford on Friday and was chatting to guys in there and most thought Sibley deserves a crack based on this seasons form.

They are only averaging 30 ish in CC, but so was Trescothick when picked! Burns was picked when scoring heavily in fairness too, and Denly is a red baller by trade.

Have to say though, for all the rants about get the red ball batsmen in.....there have been a huge number tried, too many with not enough time maybe, over the last 4 or 5 years.

Great stat- Woakes batting average in England is higher than Cook's at the moment. His England stats would make him one of the great all rounders- averages 45 with the bat (700 runs) and 22 with the ball (64 wickets) if continued

Banquo wrote:

Big D wrote:Hopefully Bairstow clicks and digs in here. Big knock could kickstart a stalling career.

Get the guys in who have scored in CC1. Sibley for certain and maybe Northeast. At least they have scores in red ball cricket.

Too easy to say these guys aren't good enough. Especially when the incumbents aren't performing. Was fortunate enough to be in hospitality at the rained off game at old trafford on Friday and was chatting to guys in there and most thought Sibley deserves a crack based on this seasons form.

They are only averaging 30 ish in CC, but so was Trescothick when picked! Burns was picked when scoring heavily in fairness too, and Denly is a red baller by trade.

Have to say though, for all the rants about get the red ball batsmen in.....there have been a huge number tried, too many with not enough time maybe, over the last 4 or 5 years.

But Sibley particularly is averaging 60odd this season approaching 1000 runs to get his overall average to 40. Not sure another season of averaging 50plus would make too much of a difference. With tours of SA and NZ on the horizon I think they are as well giving him a run now and giving him time to bed I'm rather than having Denly wander on for a few more games.

At 23, he is the perfect age to get in at 4 in place of Denly with a view to moving up (or open from the start). If it doesnt work there is time to go away and work on issues and come back if need be. Don't think England would be losing anything by making that change bar Denlys slow bowling.

At the moment Curran for Denly is an attractive change too.

Big D wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Big D wrote:Hopefully Bairstow clicks and digs in here. Big knock could kickstart a stalling career.

Get the guys in who have scored in CC1. Sibley for certain and maybe Northeast. At least they have scores in red ball cricket.

Too easy to say these guys aren't good enough. Especially when the incumbents aren't performing. Was fortunate enough to be in hospitality at the rained off game at old trafford on Friday and was chatting to guys in there and most thought Sibley deserves a crack based on this seasons form.

They are only averaging 30 ish in CC, but so was Trescothick when picked! Burns was picked when scoring heavily in fairness too, and Denly is a red baller by trade.

Have to say though, for all the rants about get the red ball batsmen in.....there have been a huge number tried, too many with not enough time maybe, over the last 4 or 5 years.

But Sibley particularly is averaging 60odd this season approaching 1000 runs to get his overall average to 40. Not sure another season of averaging 50plus would make too much of a difference. With tours of SA and NZ on the horizon I think they are as well giving him a run now and giving him time to bed I'm rather than having Denly wander on for a few more games.

At 23, he is the perfect age to get in at 4 in place of Denly with a view to moving up (or open from the start). If it doesnt work there is time to go away and work on issues and come back if need be. Don't think England would be losing anything by making that change bar Denlys slow bowling.

I'm not arguing about Sibley to be clear (hence the tres point). But the general notion that we don't try and put form CC red ball players in doesn't stack up, and in fact you are replacing another . I've lost track of the number of Westleys, Pope's, etc that've had a go.

woakes bounced out, why did he review??

Unfortunately, he's now exposed a vulnerability as well as Archer