England vs SA

[Mellsblue]

pre match atmosphere good

JVP doing his best to stop that!

[Banquo]

great start...Sleights tip top and marcus excellent thrice

[Danno]

Smith is our Du Pont, LET HIM PLAY

[Banquo]

saffers really nervy.

[FKAS]

Smith is our Du Pont, LET HIM PLAY

Looks happier with JvP at 9 so far. Then again we started well last week...

[Danno]

Again with the defence

[Mellsblue]

Freddie Oil Tanker Steward.

[Stom]

What the hell was that from Steward!!! That was atrocious

[FKAS]

Freddie Oil Tanker Steward.

Buys it to easy. He's got support on the inside there, should show him that way.

[Banquo]

shambles from jvp

[Mellsblue]

Might turn it off and just drink my wine in a dark room.

[Mellsblue]

shambles from jvp

Is that the third kick he’s had charged down?

[FKAS]

Not overly sure Eben was onside there. Surprised they've not checked.

[Stom]

We’re just so full of mistakes.

[Mellsblue]

Seriously Bemused will no doubt blame the law changes.

[Mellsblue]

We’re just so full of mistakes.

Very harsh. I’m sure all 15 are trying their best.

[FKAS]

And the replay shows he was offside but it's Ben Whitehouse as TMO so don't expect consistency or competency from the TMO.

[Mellsblue]

I hate that Stuart is deemed high there.

[Danno]

Might turn it off and just drink my wine in a dark room.

Yeah I don't know if I can be arsed either

[Mellsblue]

Freddie Oil Tanker Steward.

[Stom]

Steward just isn’t very good, is he?

[Mellsblue]

Steward just isn’t very good, is he?

Same issues that got him dropped.

[Danno]

Wow. You lot really are a miserable bunch of sods this week! The pendulum has swung so much across to despair and to England (and the coaches) being irredeemably shite that it makes me want to defend them, just so the balance swings somewhere further back towards where reality is.

Puja

I think it's fair though. We've narrowly beaten Ireland, got beaten by a point in a semi against a misfiring team, and that is literally the only accomplishment we can point to. Everything else has been dire, dour and despairing. Give us a bench that inspires joy or at least hope ffs

I mean, I don't particularly want to be defending them, cause we have lost the last 5 big games, but people are building an echo like we've been getting dicked by all and sundry, and bewailing our fate as a hopeless team (that apparently has no attack at all, despite scoring 5 tries last week!).

I don't want to be defending them. They need to win a fucking game before I'll do that. But I'm not sure going full Private Fraser is the appropriate response either.

Puja

All fair points, but look

[Mellsblue]

Great line from Underhill.

[Insouciant]

Underhill picking a good line.. surprised to see a gap that big in the SA defence tbh.