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Re: England u20 24/25 Season
England U20 Men team to face Italy
15 George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 1 cap)
14 Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 8 caps)
13 Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 9 caps)
12 Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 2 caps)
11 Campbell Ridl (Exeter Chiefs, Sharks, 1 cap)
10 Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 13 caps)
9 Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 1 cap)
1 Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 3 caps)
2 Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 3 caps)
3 Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 3 caps)
4 Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 14 caps)
5 Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 3 caps)
6 Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 13 caps)
7 George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 5 caps)
8 Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 12 caps)
Replacements
16 Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 3 caps)
17 Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 3 caps)
18 Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, uncapped)
19 Oscar Beckerleg (Exeter Chiefs, Penzance and Newlyn RFC, uncapped)
20 Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 1 cap)
21 Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, uncapped)
22 Ollie Davies (Sale Sharks, Macclesfield RUFC, 1 cap)
23 Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 2 caps)
15 George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 1 cap)
14 Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 8 caps)
13 Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 9 caps)
12 Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 2 caps)
11 Campbell Ridl (Exeter Chiefs, Sharks, 1 cap)
10 Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 13 caps)
9 Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 1 cap)
1 Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 3 caps)
2 Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 3 caps)
3 Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 3 caps)
4 Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 14 caps)
5 Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 3 caps)
6 Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 13 caps)
7 George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 5 caps)
8 Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 12 caps)
Replacements
16 Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 3 caps)
17 Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 3 caps)
18 Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, uncapped)
19 Oscar Beckerleg (Exeter Chiefs, Penzance and Newlyn RFC, uncapped)
20 Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 1 cap)
21 Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, uncapped)
22 Ollie Davies (Sale Sharks, Macclesfield RUFC, 1 cap)
23 Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 2 caps)
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Re: England u20 24/25 Season
EP will be a bit happier with Davies up to the bench.
Some changes, are these to allow a few players to play in the PRC this weekend?
Some changes, are these to allow a few players to play in the PRC this weekend?
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I very much am! I just hope he gets lots of game time!
Otherwise pretty pleased with the rotation. There’s players I’d like to see but it’s a very competitive age group.
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That Italian winger, number 11 is quite a player isn't he. Two tries early on and took both fantastically.
Entertaining game.
Entertaining game.
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I like our 9 but I'm not sure about the 10. He is quick but he seems to lack physical presence. His attempt to tackle the Italian winger as he went for their 2nd try was feeble.
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Yeah I'm not sold on the 10 either, seems very busy for not a lot of output. Holding up the opposition rolling maul to stop a try isn't what you normally see from you flyhalf mind.
Italy under 20s have started the second half well, England are going to have to work for this.
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Refreshing honesty from Mapletoft
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Not great really. Pretty scrappy at times with some questionable defending. Thought James and Hall were very good.
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The Italians are no mugs and we switched up a bit in the pack. Raymont really struggled at scrum time. Sodeke put in another big shift. James likewise.
Hall the pick of the backs along with Bracken.
Bellamy is like you ordered Marcus Smith from Wish.
Hall the pick of the backs along with Bracken.
Bellamy is like you ordered Marcus Smith from Wish.
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England U20 team v Wales 7.30pm Friday:
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
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Why we persist with these two tens is beyond me! I'd also start Lilley over Allison. Otherwise it's about as good as we could be with players missing.
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Is Sela injured?
Missed Sela, Pollock, Kpoku, Friday and McParland for a big chunk of this tournament.
Missed Sela, Pollock, Kpoku, Friday and McParland for a big chunk of this tournament.
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I assume Sela will be playing against Exeter in the Premiership Rugby Cup final.Captainhaircut wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:14 pm Is Sela injured?
Missed Sela, Pollock, Kpoku, Friday and McParland for a big chunk of this tournament.
Ben Redshaw has also been absent.
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We only missed Kpoku through suspension.
The attrition at scrum half has been quite bad.
The attrition at scrum half has been quite bad.
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How does a player from Guildford RFC wind up in Sale’s academy? It doesn’t bother me - just curious.fivepointer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:53 pm England U20 team v Wales 7.30pm Friday:
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
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Ex LIScrumhead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:47 amHow does a player from Guildford RFC wind up in Sale’s academy? It doesn’t bother me - just curious.fivepointer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:53 pm England U20 team v Wales 7.30pm Friday:
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
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He was in London Irish's academy, and so left without a club when they went bust. Sale picked him up then.Scrumhead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:47 amHow does a player from Guildford RFC wind up in Sale’s academy? It doesn’t bother me - just curious.fivepointer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:53 pm England U20 team v Wales 7.30pm Friday:
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
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Yeah Redshaw has an ankle injury. Sela also picked up a knock I believe.Slater582 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:46 pmI assume Sela will be playing against Exeter in the Premiership Rugby Cup final.Captainhaircut wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:14 pm Is Sela injured?
Missed Sela, Pollock, Kpoku, Friday and McParland for a big chunk of this tournament.
Ben Redshaw has also been absent.
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There's some odd ones when you compare amateur club to pro club. Pearson from Buckingham Rugby to Tigers academy. Timmins from Market Harborough Rugby (the town around which most Tigers players live and previously some Saints) at Bath. Where they end up at school etc obviously plays a part but does make me chuckle.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:08 amHe was in London Irish's academy, and so left without a club when they went bust. Sale picked him up then.Scrumhead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:47 amHow does a player from Guildford RFC wind up in Sale’s academy? It doesn’t bother me - just curious.fivepointer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:53 pm England U20 team v Wales 7.30pm Friday:
15. George Pearson (Leicester Tigers, Buckingham RFC, 2 caps)
14. Jack Bracken (Saracens, Barnet Elizabethans, 9 caps)
13. Angus Hall (Saracens, Sevenoaks Rugby Club, 10 caps)
12. Nic Allison (Exeter Chiefs, Bishops Diocesan College, 3 caps)
11. Jack Kinder (Leicester Tigers, Silhillians RUFC, 3 caps)
10. Ben Coen (Exeter Chiefs, Teignmouth RFC, 8 caps)
9. Dom Hanson (Sale Sharks, Stockport RFC, 2 caps)
1. Ralph McEachran (Sale Sharks, Guildford RFC, 4 caps)
2. Kepu Tuipulotu (Bath Rugby, Cwmbran RFC, 4 caps)
3. Tye Raymont (Sale Sharks, West Park Leeds RFC, 4 caps)
4. Olamide Sodeke (Saracens, Blackheath Rugby Club, 15 caps)
5. Tom Burrow (c) (Sale Sharks, Morley RUFC, 4 caps)
6. Junior Kpoku (Racing 92, Saracens Amateurs, 14 caps)
7. George Timmins (Bath Rugby, Market Harborough RUFC, 6 caps)
8. Kane James (Exeter Chiefs, St. Peter’s RFC, 13 caps)
Replacements:
16. Louie Gulley (Exeter Chiefs, Crediton RFC, 4 caps)
17. Oliver Scola (Northampton Saints, Old Northamptonians RFC, 4 caps)
18. Tubuna Maka (Leicester Tigers, Birmingham Moseley RFC, 1 cap)
19. Aiden Ainsworth-Cave (Northampton Saints, Bedford Junior Blues, 3 caps)
20. Connor Treacey (Bath Rugby, New Milton Rugby Club, 2 caps)
21. Joe Davis (Newcastle Falcons, Bishop Auckland RUFC, 1 cap)
22. Josh Bellamy (Harlequins, Rosslyn Park, 14 caps)
23. Nick Lilley (Exeter Chiefs, Ivybridge RFC, 3 caps)
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Timmins was MillfieldFKAS wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:45 amThere's some odd ones when you compare amateur club to pro club. Pearson from Buckingham Rugby to Tigers academy. Timmins from Market Harborough Rugby (the town around which most Tigers players live and previously some Saints) at Bath. Where they end up at school etc obviously plays a part but does make me chuckle.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:08 amHe was in London Irish's academy, and so left without a club when they went bust. Sale picked him up then.
Pearson is more interesting. He was in Wuss Academy and got dropped. Went to Oxford College for A levels and got back into the then Mids Acad. Got into England U18 and Tigers picked him up.
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Pearson isn't the biggest lad, was it size that got him overlooked originally do you know? Good skills plus a bit of a growth spurt got him back into the reckoning.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:55 pmTimmins was MillfieldFKAS wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:45 amThere's some odd ones when you compare amateur club to pro club. Pearson from Buckingham Rugby to Tigers academy. Timmins from Market Harborough Rugby (the town around which most Tigers players live and previously some Saints) at Bath. Where they end up at school etc obviously plays a part but does make me chuckle.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:08 am
He was in London Irish's academy, and so left without a club when they went bust. Sale picked him up then.
Pearson is more interesting. He was in Wuss Academy and got dropped. Went to Oxford College for A levels and got back into the then Mids Acad. Got into England U18 and Tigers picked him up.
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Not 100% sure. The Mids academy guys tended to be good with size and see past it, so it may have beeb other things at the time. He certainly kicked on at Oxford, culminating in his England recognition.FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:37 pmPearson isn't the biggest lad, was it size that got him overlooked originally do you know? Good skills plus a bit of a growth spurt got him back into the reckoning.Epaminondas Pules wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:55 pmTimmins was MillfieldFKAS wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:45 am
There's some odd ones when you compare amateur club to pro club. Pearson from Buckingham Rugby to Tigers academy. Timmins from Market Harborough Rugby (the town around which most Tigers players live and previously some Saints) at Bath. Where they end up at school etc obviously plays a part but does make me chuckle.
Pearson is more interesting. He was in Wuss Academy and got dropped. Went to Oxford College for A levels and got back into the then Mids Acad. Got into England U18 and Tigers picked him up.
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What a horrendous ref.
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I think this might be the best I've seen Coen play