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Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:49 am
by QwentyJ
morepork wrote:"I think he's the best 12 on the planet right now"

Come again?
I stand by that. At this moment, he is very, very good.

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:02 am
by QwentyJ
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
morepork wrote:"I think he's the best 12 on the planet right now"

Come again?
Does tend to discredit everything he has ever said or ever well say.
Ah yes, Eugene's snide assides. I knew I'd miss something from the old days! ;)

Look, I can accept it's a left-field choice but you can't deny he didn't have a superlative game yesterday.

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:17 pm
by Adder
Finally got a Glance at the Itoje/Hogg incident.
Slow motion does make it look worse but that is some impact... No I don't believe it was deliberate and Haskell barely touched him.



Laidlaw would have been great to have on the field at that moment...

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:25 pm
by morepork
QwentyJ wrote:
morepork wrote:"I think he's the best 12 on the planet right now"

Come again?
I stand by that. At this moment, he is very, very good.

You're easily pleased.

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:46 pm
by QwentyJ
Adder wrote:Finally got a Glance at the Itoje/Hogg incident.
Slow motion does make it look worse but that is some impact... No I don't believe it was deliberate and Haskell barely touched him.



Laidlaw would have been great to have on the field at that moment...
Still reckless however and that is what the IRB is cutting down on.

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:16 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
QwentyJ wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
morepork wrote:"I think he's the best 12 on the planet right now"

Come again?
Does tend to discredit everything he has ever said or ever well say.
Ah yes, Eugene's snide assides. I knew I'd miss something from the old days! ;)

Look, I can accept it's a left-field choice but you can't deny he didn't have a superlative game yesterday.
If you say something fucking ridiculous then expect someone to point it out. What I said was hardly an aside since it was entire post. It was not snide so much as derision because that's what that opinion deserves.

Let's accept for the moment that he had a good game (he did) and ignore for the moment that he was playing behind a pack that was utterly dominant (else we'd have to ignore quite a lot of other 12s performances etc) and let's accept for a moment that he had the superlative game you suggest (I don't for a moment agree and would state that Ford and JJ were the class of that back line, but I'm prepared to humour you). Now how do you ignore the utterly dog turd performance in the match before?

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:53 pm
by QwentyJ
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
QwentyJ wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Does tend to discredit everything he has ever said or ever well say.
Ah yes, Eugene's snide assides. I knew I'd miss something from the old days! ;)

Look, I can accept it's a left-field choice but you can't deny he didn't have a superlative game yesterday.
If you say something fucking ridiculous then expect someone to point it out. What I said was hardly an aside since it was entire post. It was not snide so much as derision because that's what that opinion deserves.

Let's accept for the moment that he had a good game (he did) and ignore for the moment that he was playing behind a pack that was utterly dominant (else we'd have to ignore quite a lot of other 12s performances etc) and let's accept for a moment that he had the superlative game you suggest (I don't for a moment agree and would state that Ford and JJ were the class of that back line, but I'm prepared to humour you). Now how do you ignore the utterly dog turd performance in the match before?
What no "welcome back", Euge? How discourteous of you.

If you're prepared to have a civil conversation about this, then I'm prepared to countenance you. If not, you can jog on.

So ok, if we look at the Italy game, everyone is allowed a day off. I'm prepared to accept that however that was the game where England were having their party pooped by the Italians not creating a offside line so the backs were getting bad quality ball, if any. Windy conditions put pay to must off the kicks but both kickers were struggling and he did start to mail them at the end.

RE: the game against us, I don't understand how you can simply say that Ford and JJ were the class of the back-line and leave out the 12, the link man? That is naive at best. Look at the work Farrell puts in for Watson's try holding up both both Jones and Dunbar for one example amongst many.

At this very time, he would be my starting 12 for the Lions and I've not been put to strict proof as to why he shouldn't be.

Re: Calcutta Cup

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:08 pm
by kk67
switchskier wrote:Laidlaw surprisingly ok as a pundit (based on his post match interviews). Feel that we missed his calm and nous today just to keep the heid.

Fair play to Barclay too. It was useless.
I don't know so much about 'calm'. Mostly he seems to be screaming at them and kicking them up the arse.
But boy-oh-boy do they miss him. Not that Price is poor,...far from it.

Several people suggesting a psychologist and I tend to agree.
Gotta put the 'plucky Scots' epithet to bed. And then take a sh*t on it.