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Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:31 am
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:Buttler now back to being the worst ‘keeper in the world. Anderson could be at 700 if they’d taken all their catches.
yeah he's sh&t drop him. That is a really bad one to be fair.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:42 am
by Puja
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Buttler now back to being the worst ‘keeper in the world. Anderson could be at 700 if they’d taken all their catches.
yeah he's sh&t drop him. That is a really bad one to be fair.
Wow, thanks Joss! Waited until after I'd praised him for maximum comic effect.

Paul Collingwood is on as a sub fielder! How does that work? Surely a coach can't just randomly decide to come onto the pitch and show everyone how it's done?

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:57 am
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Buttler now back to being the worst ‘keeper in the world. Anderson could be at 700 if they’d taken all their catches.
yeah he's sh&t drop him. That is a really bad one to be fair.
Wow, thanks Joss! Waited until after I'd praised him for maximum comic effect.

Paul Collingwood is on as a sub fielder! How does that work? Surely a coach can't just randomly decide to come onto the pitch and show everyone how it's done?

Puja
Probs are reality of a small bubble and MBE exemption from the rules.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:44 pm
by Banquo
Looks like rain for the next day. The dropped catches may end up making the difference.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:48 pm
by Mellsblue
You know what they say about dropped catches.....

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:48 pm
by Big D
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Buttler now back to being the worst ‘keeper in the world. Anderson could be at 700 if they’d taken all their catches.
yeah he's sh&t drop him. That is a really bad one to be fair.
Wow, thanks Joss! Waited until after I'd praised him for maximum comic effect.

Paul Collingwood is on as a sub fielder! How does that work? Surely a coach can't just randomly decide to come onto the pitch and show everyone how it's done?

Puja
They released a whole load of players, and Woody was probably having a cuppa.

I see Foakes scored a ton for Surrey. I wouldn't be surprised to see England play both he and Buttler in the winter if there is a batting injury during tour.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:56 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote: yeah he's sh&t drop him. That is a really bad one to be fair.
Wow, thanks Joss! Waited until after I'd praised him for maximum comic effect.

Paul Collingwood is on as a sub fielder! How does that work? Surely a coach can't just randomly decide to come onto the pitch and show everyone how it's done?

Puja
Probs are reality of a small bubble and MBE exemption from the rules.
Can you not pick whoever you want as a sub fielder? If Collingwood is there why not use him?

It was an awful drop by Buttler, so bad it's not even really a drop given his hands don't seem to touch the ball.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:00 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
Puja wrote:
Wow, thanks Joss! Waited until after I'd praised him for maximum comic effect.

Paul Collingwood is on as a sub fielder! How does that work? Surely a coach can't just randomly decide to come onto the pitch and show everyone how it's done?

Puja
Probs are reality of a small bubble and MBE exemption from the rules.
Can you not pick whoever you want as a sub fielder? If Collingwood is there why not use him?

It was an awful drop by Buttler, so bad it's not even really a drop given his hands don't seem to touch the ball.
whether it wobbled I don't know, but going under the ball was very odd

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:05 pm
by Digby
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Probs are reality of a small bubble and MBE exemption from the rules.
Can you not pick whoever you want as a sub fielder? If Collingwood is there why not use him?

It was an awful drop by Buttler, so bad it's not even really a drop given his hands don't seem to touch the ball.
whether it wobbled I don't know, but going under the ball was very odd
He does seem to want to work off a firm base with his footwork, that grants him a lot of power in his batting but at other times it denies him flexibility to correct. Or maybe he'd just nodded off, and he has in fairness given a lot of hours to this match already after the batting unit failed, some of the underlying root cause might be Root

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:41 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:
Can you not pick whoever you want as a sub fielder? If Collingwood is there why not use him?

It was an awful drop by Buttler, so bad it's not even really a drop given his hands don't seem to touch the ball.
whether it wobbled I don't know, but going under the ball was very odd
He does seem to want to work off a firm base with his footwork, that grants him a lot of power in his batting but at other times it denies him flexibility to correct. Or maybe he'd just nodded off, and he has in fairness given a lot of hours to this match already after the batting unit failed, some of the underlying root cause might be Root
Equally Crawley was likely knackered, they ran for a lot of their partnership! Not sure what Burns or Broad's excuses were :)

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:18 pm
by Puja
Digby wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:
Can you not pick whoever you want as a sub fielder? If Collingwood is there why not use him?

It was an awful drop by Buttler, so bad it's not even really a drop given his hands don't seem to touch the ball.
whether it wobbled I don't know, but going under the ball was very odd
He does seem to want to work off a firm base with his footwork, that grants him a lot of power in his batting but at other times it denies him flexibility to correct. Or maybe he'd just nodded off, and he has in fairness given a lot of hours to this match already after the batting unit failed, some of the underlying root cause might be Root
It did just look like a complete misjudgement from start to finish - I don't think it wobbled or needed him to correct, it just looked like sheer unadulterated cockup. Mind, as you said, he's given a lot of hours to this match and it is a risk of following on.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:15 pm
by Digby
I thought perhaps maybe it did a bit once it had gone past the bat, perhaps that was an optical illusion created by Buttler going in the wrong direction. Either way there's no chance he doesn't think he should be taking that

As a query why wasn't Ali opening today? I'd assumed when he walked out last night he'd walked out to bat, clearly that's not the case until when, when the umpire calls play?

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:42 pm
by Stom
Digby wrote:I thought perhaps maybe it did a bit once it had gone past the bat, perhaps that was an optical illusion created by Buttler going in the wrong direction. Either way there's no chance he doesn't think he should be taking that

As a query why wasn't Ali opening today? I'd assumed when he walked out last night he'd walked out to bat, clearly that's not the case until when, when the umpire calls play?
Yeah, for openers it’s when the umpires call play.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 am
by Banquo
Weather looks very grim- hope they can get out so Jimmy can get his 600th wicket, given no certainty as to when next test will be played anywhere and he's not got much time left surely.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:14 pm
by Digby
Congrats to Jimmy

If anyone understands why with a massive lead we've spent to much time with 0-1 slips in place then fair play to you

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:20 pm
by Puja
Burns, Crawley, Broad, and Buttler must be feeling quite relieved that they've been able to get back out there and Jimmy's been able to get his 600th before the end of the cricket summer. Imagine if he'd been marooned on 599, with the prospect of potentially not making it to another series, because of those 4 drops?

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:24 pm
by Digby
Puja wrote:Burns, Crawley, Broad, and Buttler must be feeling quite relieved that they've been able to get back out there and Jimmy's been able to get his 600th before the end of the cricket summer. Imagine if he'd been marooned on 599, with the prospect of potentially not making it to another series, because of those 4 drops?

Puja
It'd be an itch, but you'd have just stuck in a line into your after dinner speech that Bradman ended stuck on an avg. of 99 and Jimmy ended on 599 but some people still think Bradman could play

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:26 pm
by Puja
Digby wrote:
Puja wrote:Burns, Crawley, Broad, and Buttler must be feeling quite relieved that they've been able to get back out there and Jimmy's been able to get his 600th before the end of the cricket summer. Imagine if he'd been marooned on 599, with the prospect of potentially not making it to another series, because of those 4 drops?

Puja
It'd be an itch, but you'd have just stuck in a line into your after dinner speech that Bradman ended stuck on an avg. of 99 and Jimmy ended on 599 but some people still think Bradman could play
Fair point.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:05 pm
by Digby
I like they had to bowl a ball after drinks, that weirdness only adds to the game

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:44 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:Congrats to Jimmy

If anyone understands why with a massive lead we've spent to much time with 0-1 slips in place then fair play to you
weird

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:54 am
by Banquo
anyone else a little disappointed by our lack of energy yesterday? Even to not taking the 15 overs to try and get 6 wickets, who knows what happens if panic sets in?

Bess seems to be the biggest -ve this summer, unfortunately.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:59 am
by fivepointer
I was. We had nothing to lose by giving it a lash. Some of our field placings were bizarre given the match situation.

Bess just hasnt cut it. He seems a good team man and is eager to learn but the control just isnt there. He needs to get a lot more cricket under his belt.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:36 am
by Stom
Banquo wrote:anyone else a little disappointed by our lack of energy yesterday? Even to not taking the 15 overs to try and get 6 wickets, who knows what happens if panic sets in?

Bess seems to be the biggest -ve this summer, unfortunately.
It was absurd.

Bess looks like a player who could be good...

What happened to international sport being the pinnacle, not a finishing school?

Leach is much better right now, while there are others who could step in.

Archer looks... like he’s not really here. Not a good look. I’d drop him like hell. If he can’t get fired up for playing test cricket, he doesn’t belong.

The thing is, he’s previously shown he has the ability to bowl long, accurate spells, as well as sort sharp ones. So he should be perfect for test cricket. But his attitude doesn’t seem test cricket yet...

Batting lineup starting to look good. Wood only got 1 test, so we don’t know if he’s an option in Australia.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:48 am
by Digby
Bess is in more of a starting than finishing school. But he is thinking about his game, he is getting some drift at times, he fields decently and he can hold a bat. It's weird he's already playing test cricket, but maybe they consider he should learn to bowl with DRS?

I like Archer, and I've some sympathy for the number of spells he was asked to bowl without a slip, merely being asked to push the batters back (a job Broad had once upon a time) and perhaps create footmarks for Bess. Neither Archer nor Bess is turning in results that match their potential yet, but I'm a little on the fence whether I'd swap them for Wood and Leach. I do feel sorry for Leach he was kept in camp and given no games

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:34 am
by Stom
Digby wrote:Bess is in more of a starting than finishing school. But he is thinking about his game, he is getting some drift at times, he fields decently and he can hold a bat. It's weird he's already playing test cricket, but maybe they consider he should learn to bowl with DRS?

I like Archer, and I've some sympathy for the number of spells he was asked to bowl without a slip, merely being asked to push the batters back (a job Broad had once upon a time) and perhaps create footmarks for Bess. Neither Archer nor Bess is turning in results that match their potential yet, but I'm a little on the fence whether I'd swap them for Wood and Leach. I do feel sorry for Leach he was kept in camp and given no games
Does archer keep his place against Jimmy, Broad and Woakes when Stokes is back?