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Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:21 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:13 pm If Farrell played like Ford we’d crucify him. Not that I blame any back for looking terrible in this team.

It's not even that the forwards aren't setting a platform...

We're just not playing any rugby. There's nothing to try and make sense of.

And it's all the worse because we looked by far the better team for the first 15 minutes, and then just completely fell apart.

The backs look like they’ve never practised together and the structure is, well, there isn’t much.
#justicefordingers

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:19 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:16 pm

Adam_P wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:14 pm

His passing was regularly gash and unsympathetic. I am a fan of Ford, but he was poor today.

Agree to disagree.

Good start for Fin Smith though, he's looked composed in this first two touches.

At least pretend to be objective.

If you go back you'll see I wanted Fin to start at flyhalf from the start of the 6N.

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:21 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:13 pm If Farrell played like Ford we’d crucify him. Not that I blame any back for looking terrible in this team.

It's not even that the forwards aren't setting a platform...

We're just not playing any rugby. There's nothing to try and make sense of.

And it's all the worse because we looked by far the better team for the first 15 minutes, and then just completely fell apart.

The backs look like they’ve never practised together and the structure is, well, there isn’t much.
#justicefordingers

There's plenty of structure, possibly to much. The lack of cohesion with it and the failing of basic skills is hurting us.

Yes, quite a lot of the changes do not look inspired. Dingwall's stock is on the rise.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:24 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:19 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:16 pm

Agree to disagree.

Good start for Fin Smith though, he's looked composed in this first two touches.

At least pretend to be objective.

If you go back you'll see I wanted Fin to start at flyhalf from the start of the 6N.

My entire point.

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:21 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:13 pm If Farrell played like Ford we’d crucify him. Not that I blame any back for looking terrible in this team.

It's not even that the forwards aren't setting a platform...

We're just not playing any rugby. There's nothing to try and make sense of.

And it's all the worse because we looked by far the better team for the first 15 minutes, and then just completely fell apart.

The backs look like they’ve never practised together and the structure is, well, there isn’t much.
#justicefordingers

You just feel we'd be a better team with Smith at 10, Dingers at 12, IFW starting, Coles in for Chessum...and Mitchell, obvs.

Seriously, though, Spencer is just godawful.

I'll say it again, Spencer has no business playing international rugby.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:25 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:21 pm

It's not even that the forwards aren't setting a platform...

We're just not playing any rugby. There's nothing to try and make sense of.

And it's all the worse because we looked by far the better team for the first 15 minutes, and then just completely fell apart.

The backs look like they’ve never practised together and the structure is, well, there isn’t much.
#justicefordingers

There's plenty of structure, possibly to much. The lack of cohesion with it and the failing of basic skills is hurting us.

There’s little to no structure after a couple of phases and turnover ball.
I could put structure in a test team for two phases…

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:27 pm

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:21 pm

It's not even that the forwards aren't setting a platform...

We're just not playing any rugby. There's nothing to try and make sense of.

And it's all the worse because we looked by far the better team for the first 15 minutes, and then just completely fell apart.

The backs look like they’ve never practised together and the structure is, well, there isn’t much.
#justicefordingers

You just feel we'd be a better team with Smith at 10, Dingers at 12, IFW starting, Coles in for Chessum...and Mitchell, obvs.

Seriously, though, Spencer is just godawful.

I wouldn’t have changed anything other than IFW for Daly.

Jeez Lawrence.. that's poor

#justicefordingers

I've given up. Let me know if a miracle occurs. That was so tiresome. Now they need to beat France or Ireland before i am positive about this set up.

IFW has to start - he's been effective on every single touch of the ball

Insouciant wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:29 pm Jeez Lawrence.. that's poor

Not remotely match-ready it seems to me. Many i think would have been a better shout, sorry to say.

Have we the worst 9’s in the 6n

I don't care if the 21 has to be an 18 year old kid, Spencer should not play for England.

Lawrence absolutely pitiful.

But the complete blame for this lies with Sweaty Blundering

how did they manage to lose that ?

Adam_P wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:31 pm IFW has to start - he's been effective on every single touch of the ball

Agreed. He's added a lot off the bench.

How depressing.

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:34 pm How depressing.

We are truly awful

pitiful second half. no skill, less brains, bizarre combinations.

game mgt at the end sooooo poor

Lawrence was unfit and out of position.

FKAS wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:34 pm

Adam_P wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:31 pm IFW has to start - he's been effective on every single touch of the ball

Agreed. He's added a lot off the bench.

Adding to the frustration that he's been left languishing on the bench for the vast majority of the tournament so far

Banquo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:36 pm pitiful second half. no skill, less brains, bizarre combinations.

game mgt at the end sooooo poor

Lawrence was unfit and out of position.

It was 40mins of complete panic compounded by an unrivalled level of incompetence

Stom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:33 pm I don't care if the 21 has to be an 18 year old kid, Spencer should not play for England.

Lawrence absolutely pitiful.

But the complete blame for this lies with Sweaty Blundering

Care and Spencer were both shocking. To be fair all of Mitchell, JvP and Quirke are out injured.

Not sure I can blame Borthwick when Scotland's tries came from unnecessary England errors. They weren't system errors they were individual skill errors. The Furbank gamble certainly didn't pay dividends, he was largely ineffective making the kind of errors that Steward would get crucified for. Borthwick has got to take some flak for the rolling maul game that did very little and where we conceded metres. Slippery Bathbomb is going to start feeling the pressure and is going to need to think of something pretty quick cause the Irish are up next and are the opposite of us, settled team playing cohesively both sides of the ball.

Furbank was fine and plenty rests on the shoulders of SB