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Mikey Brown
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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God, I'd forgotten about Gibbins. When is he fit again?
hugh_woatmeigh
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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15. Dougie Fife (100)

14. Jason Harries (8)
13. Mark Bennett (5)
12. Chris Dean (60)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (11)

10. Jaco van der Walt (11)
9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (103)

1. Jordan Lay (5)
2. Neil Cochrane (69)
3. Murray McCallum (36)
4. Fraser McKenzie (98) CAPTAIN
5. Ben Toolis (82)
6. Magnus Bradbury (46)
7. John Hardie (27)
8. Bill Mata (31)

Replacements: 16. Cameron Fenton (9); 17. Rory Sutherland (60); 18. Simon Berghan (42); 19. Lewis Carmichael (26); 20. Cornell du Preez (98); 21. Nathan Fowles (53); 22. Duncan Weir (28); 23. Junior Rasolea (25)
hugh_woatmeigh
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Hell of a pack and replacements. Not convinced that 15 and 14 are the best available & I thought Ross Ford was due back.

Should be enough to beat a depleted Munster.

Gilchrist, Marfo and R Jackson are in Italy BTW as cover BTW.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Hell of a pack and replacements. Not convinced that 15 and 14 are the best available & I thought Ross Ford was due back.

Should be enough to beat a depleted Munster.

Gilchrist, Marfo and R Jackson are in Italy BTW as cover BTW.
Who would you have instead? I think that Graham has just come back from three weeks with the sevens and Bryce is injured (though may be wrong on that). Fife at fullback should be a manageable risk, though the thought of anyone else going there does scare me.

There's also no obvious replacement for Hardie which is a bit of a concern given his injury record.

Other than that I have to admit I like the team. Should be a good time to play Munster, a result would really send a message to Ulster in that race for third.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Bryce was playing for the 7s too. Graham was excellent out there.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Well Cockerill seems to prefer Fife to Bryce at 15. I don't agree with that. I don't think Bryce should have been risked at a 7s tournament with Kinghorn away and involved with the big boys.

Edinburgh wing options just seem very underwhelming to me in general. Hoyland and Graham are the speedsters but are lacking in so many other areas.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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2 observations so far.

Edinburgh wasteful with the ball in hand. They've had two meaningful visits to the Munster 22 and should have left with 10 points minimum.

Munster have just about made it to the edge of the Edinburgh 22 and left with 3. 3-0 is incredibly flattering for Munster.

Second... Whitehouse is Nigel mk2. He thinks the game is all about him - how many marginal calls has he pulled either team back for? Just let them play some f*cking rugby. Frustrating as a viewer.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Is Whitehouse for real? I swear I hear his whistle every 30 seconds. How are these guys meant to play the game? It's not exactly an niggly game or bad conditions...
Cameo
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Dull game this after a very good start by edinburgh. Thought the disallowed try was harsh and since then they have just kicked everything
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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I can't actually blame Edinburgh for kicking so much of it away. How do you build up phases if Whitehouse is blowing up every 30 seconds?
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Thank fuck for Fife.
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OptimisticJock wrote:Thank fuck for Fife.
Was a lovely bit of play. Good speed by Duhan too, he cruised up to Fife. I enjoy his play. Rarely tackled 1st time.
Last edited by Big D on Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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What a try! How many missed tackles on Fife?
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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What the fack was that kick?
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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3 broken tackles by Fife in the middle of the pitch. One on their 7.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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That is a strange half. Both teams playing as if the conditions are a lot worse than they are.

Even that last move by munster was strange. Just because we are after 80 minutes doesn't mean you have to kick it out. You have the ball 5 metres inside your own half. Do something with it
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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4 Munster players swimming up the Edinburgh maul illegally in front of Whitehouse's face and he does nothing. Moron.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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The way Edinburgh are playing I'd honestly hook one of the wingers for Weir. Get a bit more competitive at the kicking battle, better at fielding the ball in the air, hands can't be any worse and he will at least be able to kick some of the points that VDW is incapable of.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Uh... his left arm was around his back... how is that an illegal tackle?
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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The touch judges are as bad as Whitehouse
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Big D wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Thank fuck for Fife.
Was a lovely bit of play. Good speed by Duhan too, he cruised up to Fife. I enjoy his play. Rarely tackled 1st time.
Did well there too.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Get wee fat dunc on. If Jaco isn't there to distribute the ball then what is he there for?
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Lovely kick though!
Big D
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Fowles is shite. Just get the ball out.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Uh... his left arm was around his back... how is that an illegal tackle?
Which one are you talking about?

Down to 14 Edinburgh finally kept the ball in hand and was their best spell of the match. Could have walked in if they had spread it right earlier though
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