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Re: COVID19
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:06 pm
by Digby
And the EU isn't 'the EU' in this. It's often 27 nations and those often split down by region that sometimes happen to do some things under the supposed auspices of the EU.
As we've found out when something goes right the national government take credit, when it stalls/fails it's on the EU. Which isn't to say the EU is doing a good job, they aren't but they do have some problems in this not replicated everywhere
Re: COVID19
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:14 pm
by morepork
“Their pandemic profits are so immense that America’s billionaires could pay for a major Covid relief bill and still not lose a dime of their pre-virus riches. Their wealth growth is so great that they alone could provide a $3,000 stimulus payment to every man, woman and child in the country, and still be richer than they were nine months ago.”
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/wp- ... INAL-1.pdf
Re: COVID19
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:08 pm
by paddy no 11
That's a broken system right there
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:41 am
by Galfon
10% (1-off Covid tithe) for all - that would help...
Meanwhile the 'nothing' s ruining our jollies' brigade are out again - seem to recall ski-trips to virus flare-up spots went unabated at the critical containment stage last winter.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55465079
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:53 pm
by Digby
Too stupid to live, and certainly not worthy of continued living.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:51 pm
by Which Tyler
Galfon wrote:10% (1-off Covid tithe) for all - that would help...
Meanwhile the 'nothing' s ruining our jollies' brigade are out again - seem to recall ski-trips to virus flare-up spots went unabated at the critical containment stage last winter.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55465079
What a bunch of self-entitled fucks!
Speaking of which...

Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:58 pm
by Sandydragon
Galfon wrote:10% (1-off Covid tithe) for all - that would help...
Meanwhile the 'nothing' s ruining our jollies' brigade are out again - seem to recall ski-trips to virus flare-up spots went unabated at the critical containment stage last winter.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55465079
Apparently, Barry Island is packed out as well. I get the feeling that large numbers of people just don't care any more; it will genuinely take people dying in Hospital car parks for anyone to take notice. I can guarantee that any time that this comes up in the media, someone posts the use rates or intensive care units at about 70-80%.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:00 pm
by fivepointer
I dont get this.
People here are losing loved ones, hospitals are under intense pressure with staff at breaking point, businesses are dying on their feet, people are having to get benefits to get by and many are having to endure the most awful restrictions.
Yet its okay for people to fly off for a Christmas holiday.
You cant travel out of tier 4, but want a midwinter getaway on foreign soil, go right ahead.
Have the Govt lost their fucking minds.
Non essential travel should be stopped. If we have to hunker down to try and get through this, then people can forego a holiday on the slopes, or anywhere else for that mater.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:05 pm
by morepork
fivepointer wrote:I dont get this.
People here are losing loved ones, hospitals are under intense pressure with staff at breaking point, businesses are dying on their feet, people are having to get benefits to get by and many are having to endure the most awful restrictions.
Yet its okay for people to fly off for a Christmas holiday.
You cant travel out of tier 4, but want a midwinter getaway on foreign soil, go right ahead.
Have the Govt lost their fucking minds.
Non essential travel should be stopped. If we have to hunker down to try and get through this, then people can forego a holiday on the slopes, or anywhere else for that mater.
Its a complete joke.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:09 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
fivepointer wrote:I dont get this.
People here are losing loved ones, hospitals are under intense pressure with staff at breaking point, businesses are dying on their feet, people are having to get benefits to get by and many are having to endure the most awful restrictions.
Yet its okay for people to fly off for a Christmas holiday.
You cant travel out of tier 4, but want a midwinter getaway on foreign soil, go right ahead.
Have the Govt lost their fucking minds.
Non essential travel should be stopped. If we have to hunker down to try and get through this, then people can forego a holiday on the slopes, or anywhere else for that mater.
Also we have some responsibility to the rest of the world to confine this extra infectious variant we've developed to these shores.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:23 pm
by morepork
Son of Mathonwy wrote:fivepointer wrote:I dont get this.
People here are losing loved ones, hospitals are under intense pressure with staff at breaking point, businesses are dying on their feet, people are having to get benefits to get by and many are having to endure the most awful restrictions.
Yet its okay for people to fly off for a Christmas holiday.
You cant travel out of tier 4, but want a midwinter getaway on foreign soil, go right ahead.
Have the Govt lost their fucking minds.
Non essential travel should be stopped. If we have to hunker down to try and get through this, then people can forego a holiday on the slopes, or anywhere else for that mater.
Also we have some responsibility to the rest of the world to confine this extra infectious variant we've developed to these shores.
That MF has already bolted.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:13 pm
by Galfon
And here's a reminder of how real this beast is..
The Shark's description from the hospital bed (below) needs pinning on a few of these self-centrists walls/foreheads whatever..
Recent pic. of the 65 yr-old golfster..
Played in a tourney in Flo. a week or so back..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/55459120
Re: COVID19
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:32 pm
by paddy no 11
Russia to add another 120k deaths to current total making them 3rd highest
Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:15 am
by Son of Mathonwy
morepork wrote:Son of Mathonwy wrote:fivepointer wrote:I dont get this.
People here are losing loved ones, hospitals are under intense pressure with staff at breaking point, businesses are dying on their feet, people are having to get benefits to get by and many are having to endure the most awful restrictions.
Yet its okay for people to fly off for a Christmas holiday.
You cant travel out of tier 4, but want a midwinter getaway on foreign soil, go right ahead.
Have the Govt lost their fucking minds.
Non essential travel should be stopped. If we have to hunker down to try and get through this, then people can forego a holiday on the slopes, or anywhere else for that mater.
Also we have some responsibility to the rest of the world to confine this extra infectious variant we've developed to these shores.
That MF has already bolted.
Yeah, kind of, but my metaphor would be more like, some worms got out of the can but we should at least
try to get the lid back on before we spray our fucking rancid worms over everyone.
Something like that anyway.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:13 am
by Which Tyler
AstraZeneca vaccine approved for use, first doses to be delivered on Monday
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -regulator
On a personal note, still no news on whether I count as a "frontline health care professional" or not.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:25 am
by Which Tyler
Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:02 pm
by morepork
Just show up in a white coat and state: "I his an expert".
Re: RE: Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:38 pm
by Donny osmond
It is strange. My wife is an anaesthetist and has no idea when or if she will get a vaccine.
However, of our local friends:
Admin staff at the local dental hospital? Already vaccinated.
NHS Psychiatrist? Already vaccinated.
Hospital pharmacologist? Already vaccinated.
Paediatric anaesthetist? No idea when.
There's also the small hiccup that, due to test centres being overwhelmed, she's being told to take kids to theatre without their test results coming back in time.
It's all fine. This is fine.
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Re: COVID19
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:30 pm
by morepork
Good old western efficiency at work. We in USandA are about 18 million short of the projected 20 million vaccinations for the end of the year (cut down from a promised 100 million). We are ready for them on the ground, but there is a black hole between obtaining them from producers and distribution from government centers. What a fucking surprise. Donnell hasn't been able to offer any enlightenment from the golf course and Jared is preoccupied with selling smart bombs to the Saudis.
Israel are vaccinating 2% of their population per day, and are flying ahead.*
*Palestinians in occupied territories not included in the vaccination drive.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:06 am
by morepork
Did a 4 hour shift drawing doses of the Moderns vaccine to hand off to nurses for jabbing punters. It’s a delicate wee flower and is sensitive to being shook up and degraded, but is otherwise very simple to handle. The program is slowly building pace but is very slow at the moment and relies almost entirely on volunteer labour. Could do better IMO. Quite a nice quiet solidarity amongst those volunteers though. Thank fuck for the sincere commitment of motivated medical students. Those kids are rock stars and have risen to the challenge. Pretty humbling to be given a good old telling off for bad material practice handling by a millennial. Quite a place in time right now. Front line health workers...I will raise one to you all tonight.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:26 am
by Stom
My 40 year old Brother-in-law has spent New Years in hospital with his parents. No underlying conditions, just bad luck in catching it on top of a chest infection he'd already caught.
Shows how simple it can be to seriously fuck you up. Just catch a common seasonal infection and suddenly Covid is a lot more effective at pinning you to a hospital bed.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:11 pm
by Mikey Brown
Stom wrote:My 40 year old Brother-in-law has spent New Years in hospital with his parents. No underlying conditions, just bad luck in catching it on top of a chest infection he'd already caught.
Shows how simple it can be to seriously fuck you up. Just catch a common seasonal infection and suddenly Covid is a lot more effective at pinning you to a hospital bed.
Yeah, I'm still baffled by this argument from the non-believers and anti-vaxxers that it's
only seriously ill people who really suffer from it. As if that's fine anyway. There's a huge proportion of people just teetering on the edge of being caught out by having something as mild as a cold or asthma, but that's fine. Personal responsibility and all that. All the best to your BIL.
Not going to pretend I understood everything in here, but sounds fairly alarming.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:07 pm
by fivepointer
Situation is extremely serious.
The number of new infections and hospital admissions just over the last 2 weeks are deeply concerning.
Many Docs commenting on overstretched hospitals with staff working flat out just to stand still.
The next month promises to be utterly grim.
Re: COVID19
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:29 am
by Galfon
Europe latest movers and shakers,
deaths per 1m. population: (worldo.)
Top10 -
1. San M 1737
2. Bel 1691
3. Slo 1334
4. Bos 1249
5. Ita 1241
6. N Mac 1211
7. Bul 1104
8. UK 1096
9. Mont 1089
10. Spa 1087
Others:
Hun 1014, Fra 993, Swe 862, Pol 768, Ger 415, Rus 401
Bottom of the list/those coping better:
Den 232
Gib 208
Est 182
Cyp 106
Fin 101
Ice 85
Nor 80
Mona 76
If the recent case numbers in UK from the new variant lead to deaths at a conservative 2% rate, we should creep up the table then hopefully the vaccination programme, restrictions and
reduced seasonal silliness will slow things down.

Re: COVID19
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:29 am
by Donny osmond
Just to give an quick unwanted update, due to lack of testing accuracy patients that initially test negative, get taken to surgery and then test positive (along with their family members) mean that my wife is now one of 2 paediatric anaesthetists covering cardiac surgery across the whole of Scotland, the rest being off either with covid or isolating after exposure.
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