They really are stepping it up. Real genocide is happening before our eyes. What I can't work out is if this is Netanyahu realising that the US will never try to stop him (or even stop supplying him with free bombs, Intel, missile defence, political cover . . . ) so why not go all out? Kill them all, bomb, starve, dehydrate, let disease take the rest. Then move on to the West Bank.
Or is he taking it to the max because he genuinely fears a change after the US election? Personally I don't see a change in US policy from Biden till January or from either of his possible successors. And for what it's worth, the UK won't step out of line with the US, no matter the depth of the depravity it is orchestrating.
So that's it for Palestine.
(Although I will keep marching for it)
Ultimately I think this will destroy Israel because some things can never be forgiven. But that might be a long way down the line, when the US is weaker or undergoes significant regime change.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:09 pm
by Puja
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:44 am
They really are stepping it up. Real genocide is happening before our eyes. What I can't work out is if this is Netanyahu realising that the US will never try to stop him (or even stop supplying him with free bombs, Intel, missile defence, political cover . . . ) so why not go all out? Kill them all, bomb, starve, dehydrate, let disease take the rest. Then move on to the West Bank.
Or is he taking it to the max because he genuinely fears a change after the US election? Personally I don't see a change in US policy from Biden till January or from either of his possible successors. And for what it's worth, the UK won't step out of line with the US, no matter the depth of the depravity it is orchestrating.
So that's it for Palestine.
(Although I will keep marching for it)
Ultimately I think this will destroy Israel because some things can never be forgiven. But that might be a long way down the line, when the US is weaker or undergoes significant regime change.
Netanyahu is taking the opportunity that he has while the world is preoccupied elsewhere and he has a cassus belli that can cover all sins with the right arguments. He's also interested in keeping power - this will endear him to the right-wing members of his coalition to shore up his government and earn him a place in Israel's history books, although hopefully long term it will be a different one to the one he expects.
I don't think he fears any change after the US election - the only effect it can have on him is beneficial if Trump gets in. Not like Harris is going to meaningfully do anything of note.
Puja
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:26 pm
by paddy no 11
I don't see Harris changing anything, it's going to get way worse in the next 3 months
The Americans have the new missile system in place now, so expect lots of Iranians to die in the next week
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:35 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Despicable Israeli crimes, also UK collusion, not generally reported:
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:00 pm
by paddy no 11
Thanks to channel 4 news for doing some credible reporting for a msm organisation
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:39 pm
by Puja
Israeli settler organisations are already advertising land and opportunities in southern Lebanon.
Puja
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:50 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Israel's response to Iran was pretty lacklustre. Could it be that the Iron Dome isn't quite as strong as they say? And/or the US really put their foot down over the risk of Israel sending the price of oil* up.
* incomparably more important than the price of children's lives.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:12 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
UNRWA banned (soon). The next step in the genocide - starve all Palestinians of food, healthcare, education.
The UK says this is bad but actions speak louder than words and our actions say something completely different. We're complicit in genocide.
Netanyahu called the Americans' bluff - and that was all it was. Israel can do anything* now, there are no consequences. The Israelis must be kicking themselves - they could have exterminated the Palestinians years ago.
* maybe not actual death camps? But who knows, call them Hamas camps and I reckon they'd get away with it.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:16 pm
by paddy no 11
ICC issue international arrest warrant for bibi
All sorts of wholesome countries not signed up to the ICC
The ICC will now be destroyed
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:20 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:16 pm
ICC issue international arrest warrant for bibi
All sorts of wholesome countries not signed up to the ICC
The ICC will now be destroyed
It had to be done. If the ICC took the easy way out from this, it might as well have shut up shop.
Point of English: making the post above I realised that I was slightly hazy about the distinction between systematic and systemic, about how much overlap there was between the two terms. So, to be clear, since I've got it clear in my head , they have completely distinct meanings.
Systemic means relating to a whole system, eg when something is true or appears throughout a system.
Systematic means done using a system, with a plan, a method.
So sometimes both terms apply, sometimes one or the other, or neither.
The BBC is facing an internal revolt over its reporting on Israel’s war on Gaza.
Their primary battlefield has become the online news operation. Drop Site News spoke to 13 current and former staffers who mapped out the extensive bias in the BBC’s coverage and how their demands for change have been largely met with silence from management. At times, these journalists point out, the coverage has been more credulous about Israeli claims than the UK’s own Conservative leaders and the Israeli media, while devaluing Palestinian life, ignoring atrocities, and creating a false equivalence in an entirely unbalanced conflict.
... ARTICLE CONTINUES
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?
The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:09 pm
by paddy no 11
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm
Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm
Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?
The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.
Unbelievable really, let's murder 300 people before Sunday just because we can
Those murders Defence Actions will surely be the ones that stop the terrorism from happening in the future. Those specific 300ish will make everyone all safe.
Puja
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:00 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Just got back from the Gaza protest in Whitehall. Decent crowd considering the police banned the planned route from the BBC HQ, the ceasefire is hopefully going to start tomorrow . . . and it's bloody cold!
I will keep coming to these marches though, whether or not the ceasefire holds. It's a bit of a long road but the occupation needs to end. And god knows what Trump has in store for Palestine.
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm
Ceasefire deal in Gaza. Will it come to pass? Will it hold? What inducements or threats brought Israel to agree?
The Israelis are showing typical good faith by murdering as many Gazans as they can before the deal comes into force.
Unbelievable really, let's murder 300 people before Sunday just because we can
Those murders Defence Actions will surely be the ones that stop the terrorism from happening in the future. Those specific 300ish will make everyone all safe.
Puja
Yeah. It's no different to all the previous 47,000 killings really but this does bring into sharp relief how they are just trying to kill as many as they can, for no reason other than to kill them.
, they have completely distinct meanings.