morepork wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:00 pm
Public opinion is not with him.
Is heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outside
Sorry. To be clear I was referring to his base. They seem to like the idea of alleged gang members being disappeared to El Salvador. Some will probably not care if he does defy the courts but some seem to regard the constitution as sacred and might not approve. Trump won’t give a toss about upsetting Democrats
His core MAGA supporters will stay true for a long time, even through the recession he's doing his best to generate. But there will be a bunch of Trump '24 voters who will not stay with him in the face of rising prices, rising unemployment, stagnation. Whether the Dems can inspire them is another matter. Or if they'll have a free and fair election in '26 and '28, that's another matter in the balance.
Re: America
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:02 pm
by Puja
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9-0 in the Republican dominated Supreme Court, but Dictator says no.
Puja
Re: America
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 9:33 pm
by Sandydragon
That really is two fingers up to the Supreme Court.
I’m curious how different communities may have different views on consent.
I think the clash may occur because teaching consent properly invalidates their cultural belief that a wife is the inalienable property of her husband (as with all things in that culture, offer available to whites only).
Puja
Re: America
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:05 pm
by J Dory
It's good to hear the rebellion is active MP, not something we necessarily see from afar. I've always believed America wouldn't take this shit, but the initial speed with which they've been able to progress their agenda has been disturbing.
Re: America
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:28 am
by morepork
What sort of guest would I be if I didn’t join the fray? It’s rapidly becoming front and centre, no matter what your day job is. Kia Kaha.
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.
The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.
The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
Not sure I can agree with you on "overstepped the mark." She wasn't looking to help him escape the justice system, but to escape ICE who were looking to deport him without trial.
It is worth noting that "warrant issued by a judge" is not necessarily equivalent to "guilty", especially not in America where judges are political appointments that do not necessarily need to have any experience in the law whatsoever, but even if we assume he is absolutely guilty and an utter piece of trash, he should be getting a trial in front of a jury of his peers. It's very easy to only defend the unequivocally innocent ones, and say "Oh, this one's accused of X and Y so he's trash", but rights have to be for everyone, or anyone can find themselves moved into the "not worthy of due process bucket" at any time.
Her act was definitely illegal. So was hiding people from the Gestapo. I started typing a sentence to say "we're not there yet," bu when ICE is disappearing people to Salvadoran oubliettes for the crime of "having a tattoo and brown skin", I'm not sure the qualifier is appropriate anymore.
Illegal, sure. Not in her duty or responsibilities as a judge, probably. In her position as a human being - that's a solid mark to be stepping up to.
Puja
Re: America
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:37 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Despicable and terrifying behaviour from a pro-Israel mob, hounding a woman in New York:
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:33 pm
She wasn't arrested for one of her judgements but the eagerness of Trump's lackeys to go after a judge might cow some of them. It's crossed another line. The next arrest will be easier, less of a headline.
It’s a tricky one. I’m normal times, a judge being arrested for helping a wanted person escape from federal agents wouldn’t be such an issue. She allegedly overstepped the mark and she isn’t above the law.
The problem is that these aren’t normal times and we don’t trust the Trump administration.
Not sure I can agree with you on "overstepped the mark." She wasn't looking to help him escape the justice system, but to escape ICE who were looking to deport him without trial.
It is worth noting that "warrant issued by a judge" is not necessarily equivalent to "guilty", especially not in America where judges are political appointments that do not necessarily need to have any experience in the law whatsoever, but even if we assume he is absolutely guilty and an utter piece of trash, he should be getting a trial in front of a jury of his peers. It's very easy to only defend the unequivocally innocent ones, and say "Oh, this one's accused of X and Y so he's trash", but rights have to be for everyone, or anyone can find themselves moved into the "not worthy of due process bucket" at any time.
Her act was definitely illegal. So was hiding people from the Gestapo. I started typing a sentence to say "we're not there yet," bu when ICE is disappearing people to Salvadoran oubliettes for the crime of "having a tattoo and brown skin", I'm not sure the qualifier is appropriate anymore.
Illegal, sure. Not in her duty or responsibilities as a judge, probably. In her position as a human being - that's a solid mark to be stepping up to.
Puja
But doing illegal things tends to get you arrested. The conscience bit usually comes at a trial. She wasn’t arrested for a judgement she handed down, but for doing something that was illegal. That’s the point. Thus not so unexpected
Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."
Utterly wild. I don't have much time for Piers Morgan but, on the rare occasion that he and I share a position, he does do a very good job of pinning people down to their stupid opinions. Sadly, given the state of the world, I suspect that she's done it as a business decision, given that it's now very lucrative to be a "courageous racist, saying what the liberal elite don't want to hear."