Should I spend £700 on tickets for myself and my brother to Twicks?
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:32 am
by Mikey Brown
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:MB I think you need to stop banging the Matt Scott drum. He realistically won't feature until Toony arrives and figures out what his best team is.
Yeah I know mate but we just won so what am I meant to complain about? The Welsh aren't even claiming we cheated them out of it, they're just laying down and saying we were better on the day.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:48 am
by Edinburgh in Exile
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Should I spend £700 on tickets for myself and my brother to Twicks?
Haha, you might want to look at it when it's not 2 in the morning big man. Surely you'd be better off heading down there on the day on spec and seeing if anyone is selling spare tickets in a pub or near the ground.
Cautionary tale on booking things whilst pissed after the pubs shut. After the quarter final Embra won against Toulouse a few years back, I stumbled back to my hotel and booked flights from Embra to Dublin absolutely fannied... I didn't live in Embra, was only over for the weekend.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:43 am
by General Zod
Haha - that's quality!
Anyway, beating Wales by more than 15 is double good for ranking points. Am trying to calculate how much we go up by, but my head is still rather sore after yesterday!
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:16 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
General Zod wrote:Haha - that's quality!
Anyway, beating Wales by more than 15 is double good for ranking points. Am trying to calculate how much we go up by, but my head is still rather sore after yesterday!
Great little tool. Put in all your dream results and watch how far we climb
If we beat England we'll be 4th regardless. If we win in Aus we will most likely go 3rd.
I know both are incredibly unlikely but its a huge climb for only a couple of games.
Re: RE: Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:30 am
by Big D
General Zod wrote:Haha - that's quality!
Anyway, beating Wales by more than 15 is double good for ranking points. Am trying to calculate how much we go up by, but my head is still rather sore after yesterday!
We can only gain points v England and lose points v Italy.
Knowing us we'll draw the ABs and who ever is 9th in the WC.
Re: RE: Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:49 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Big D wrote:
General Zod wrote:Haha - that's quality!
Anyway, beating Wales by more than 15 is double good for ranking points. Am trying to calculate how much we go up by, but my head is still rather sore after yesterday!
We can only gain points v England and lose points v Italy.
Knowing us we'll draw the ABs and who ever is 9th in the WC.
Knowing us? I've always thought we got very favourable draws.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:01 am
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Big D wrote:
General Zod wrote:Haha - that's quality!
Anyway, beating Wales by more than 15 is double good for ranking points. Am trying to calculate how much we go up by, but my head is still rather sore after yesterday!
We can only gain points v England and lose points v Italy.
Knowing us we'll draw the ABs and who ever is 9th in the WC.
Knowing us? I've always thought we got very favourable draws.
We have done ok out of the draws, although to be fair since 2007 when the RGs started to be a tough rather than tricky match there is only really ever one "group of death" with 3 of what would be considered the top 9 teams. In 2011 we had that group but we were always going to get that group as it was us that was the 9th ranked team.
It's a Scottish thing to be pessimistic. We've worked hard to be 5th but wouldn't surprise my pessimistic mind if we get NZ and Argentina/France/Wales which ever ends up 9th.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:14 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Big D wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Big D wrote:
We can only gain points v England and lose points v Italy.
Knowing us we'll draw the ABs and who ever is 9th in the WC.
Knowing us? I've always thought we got very favourable draws.
We have done ok out of the draws, although to be fair since 2007 when the RGs started to be a tough rather than tricky match there is only really ever one "group of death" with 3 of what would be considered the top 9 teams. In 2011 we had that group but we were always going to get that group as it was us that was the 9th ranked team.
It's a Scottish thing to be pessimistic. We've worked hard to be 5th but wouldn't surprise my pessimistic mind if we get NZ and Argentina/France/Wales which ever ends up 9th.
At least we've a chance of not being drawn with some big teams.
Hadn't noticed that Italy are in pot 4 as they're 14th? JFC. That's mental but they really are second tier now. There's a big gulf between 9 and anything below it.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:15 am
by General Zod
Nice one! A big victory over England and we're laughing...
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:16 am
by Big D
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Big D wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Knowing us? I've always thought we got very favourable draws.
We have done ok out of the draws, although to be fair since 2007 when the RGs started to be a tough rather than tricky match there is only really ever one "group of death" with 3 of what would be considered the top 9 teams. In 2011 we had that group but we were always going to get that group as it was us that was the 9th ranked team.
It's a Scottish thing to be pessimistic. We've worked hard to be 5th but wouldn't surprise my pessimistic mind if we get NZ and Argentina/France/Wales which ever ends up 9th.
At least we've a chance of not being drawn with some big teams.
Hadn't noticed that Italy are in pot 4 as they're 14th? JFC. That's mental but they really are second tier now. There's a big gulf between 9 and anything below it.
Aye. Fiji look over ranked. Japan at home will be dangerous but yeah avoid 9th ranked team and most teams will be happy.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:31 pm
by Big D
Hardie out of 6N with MCL injury. No other concerns which is good.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:47 pm
by Tobylerone
Big D wrote:Hardie out of 6N with MCL injury. No other concerns which is good.
Edinburgh 7`s don`t seem to have much luck on the injury front.. Pray for Watson..
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:48 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Big D wrote:Hardie out of 6N with MCL injury. No other concerns which is good.
Best of luck to him. Will he likely be back playing for Edinburgh before the season is over?
It'll be interesting to see who is drafted onto the bench. CDP & Harley are the only back row forwards left. Having said that I think Bradbury has been training with the squad. No experienced options either way unless we call up Denton.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:45 pm
by Big D
Saw on another board from the excellent stato Ontopofthenmoon that all bar 1 of the 8 times we got into their 22 we scored. Excellent efficiency.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:23 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Never.
If we beat England we'll be 4th regardless. If we win in Aus we will most likely go 3rd.
I know both are incredibly unlikely but its a huge climb for only a couple of games.
Only if you beat them by more than 15 and I think we may still need to lose for you to pass us.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:31 pm
by QwentyJ
Chuffed to bits.
They said Hardy was out for 7-8 weeks so perhaps he will be back for end of season.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:17 am
by Big D
Big D wrote:Saw on another board from the excellent stato Ontopofthenmoon that all bar 1 of the 8 times we got into their 22 we scored. Excellent efficiency.
Here is the post. Think a few on here post on the other board, this guys blogs are usually quite good too:
topofthemoon wrote:2 things stuck out for me about Scotland. How clinical they were - taking points on essentially every trip to the Welsh 22 - and how confident / mentally strong they were - there was no panic, no letting the heads drop, just a complete faith that if they went through their processes they would get things right and pick up points.
In terms of success in the 22 the contrast with the Welsh is particularly stark:
Scotland 1. Penalty (Russell)
2. Penalty (Russell)
3. Ruck turnover (clearing kick not out of 22 though) 4. Penalty (Russell)
5. Try (Seymour)
6. Penalty (Russell)
7. Try (Visser)
Wales
1. Ruck turnover 2. Penalty (Halfpenny)
3. Interception 4. Try (L. Williams)
5. Knock on
6. Obstruction (pen)
7. Knock on
8. In touch
9. Knock on (+ pen)
10. Ruck turnover (pen)
11. Ruck turnover (pen)
I was going to say that was one of our best 6Ns victories but bugger that, it was the best. We've had the odd good win in the past 17 year but all of those were just brief flashes of light in the darkness. This was the first emphatic 6N victory over a team that wasn't Italy and on the 80th minute you felt as if a corner had been well and truely turned.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:52 pm
by Mikey Brown
I don't want to obsess too much over this but I just couldn't resist watching the short highlights again and I'm still not sure about the Hogg chip over the top. You can put this on to quarter speed and it's still very hard to see who gets their hand on the ball first.
2:10 shows the full incident and 2:23 shows Hogg definitely had his hand on it when grounded.
Re: Scotland v Wales
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:51 pm
by General Zod
What's the rule when they both ground it at the same time?
