England v Ireland Sat 21 Feb at 2.10pm

[Banquo]

Embarrassing tbh. Fair play to Ireland, smarter and harder into contact.

[Buggaluggs]

This is really fucking embarrassing.

Hold my beer

[Galfon]

14 - 42 & the crowd are voting with their feet...

[TheDasher]

Hopefully this is the end of Arundel's England career.

Gosh I hope not. He's young, I hope he has many caps ahead of him.

[Scrumhead]

Absolutely. Right now, we cannot feel confident of beating Italy in Rome.

We looked good in the Autumn. What the hell has happened in the last two weeks?

[Insouciant]

Ireland, to a man, just look sharper all the time.

Same as last week, we just look kinda sluggish. It's a worry that we can't get into the right headspace for big games.

Bit of a massacre really. England need to have a huge rethink week off.

[TheDasher]

End of Ford's England career though, Dingwall's, George's, LCD's, Steward's etc...

[Banquo]

Destroyed at the breakdown. Again, choosing when to compete brilliantly. Same as last week.

[Banquo]

Absolutely. Right now, we cannot feel confident of beating Italy in Rome.

We looked good in the Autumn. What the hell has happened in the last two weeks?

Intensity and withering under it.

Smith hauled down by a giraffe

[Banquo]

Davison…

[p/d]

Can it get worse?

Oh yes it can!!

[p/d]

Super sub Sam!!!!

[Banquo]

End of Ford's England career though, Dingwall's, George's, LCD's, Steward's etc...

No mention of our annihilated back row?

[Galfon]

Scant consolation.
21 - 42, 76 min. Underhill.

[charlesdeboeuf]

Is it hyperbole to start calling for Borthwick and Wigglesworth’s head? Two weeks in a row we’ve been utterly dismantled in embarrassing fashion by teams we should be beating, or at least coming close to beating.

[Epaminondas Pules]

Hopefully this is the end of Arundel's England career.

I think of everything that’s gone to shit this game my focus would also be on Arundell

[TheDasher]

End of Ford's England career though, Dingwall's, George's, LCD's, Steward's etc...

No mention of our annihilated back row?

Don't worry, just havent got to them yet

[Mellsblue]

Destroyed at the breakdown. Again, choosing when to compete brilliantly. Same as last week.

Yep. It would’ve been embarrassing even if we didn’t have three 7s on the pitch…

[Oakboy]

Is it hyperbole to start calling for Borthwick and Wigglesworth’s head? Two weeks in a row we’ve been utterly dismantled in embarrassing fashion by teams we should be beating, or at least coming close to beating.

There is no excuse for a team not looking switched on at KO.

[Banquo]

Our tackling has been pretty weak, alongside our very average defensive shape and decisions.

Lot to fix.

[Epaminondas Pules]

Hopefully this is the end of Arundel's England career.

I think of everything that’s gone to shit this game my focus would also be on Arundell

Speaking of which he wins the high ball and nobody is there to prevent Ireland mixing the ball again!

[Banquo]

Destroyed at the breakdown. Again, choosing when to compete brilliantly. Same as last week.

Yep. It would’ve been embarrassing even if we didn’t have three 7s on the pitch…

And two on the bench!!

[Oakboy]

Our tackling has been pretty weak, alongside our very average defensive shape and decisions.

Lot to fix.

How does a HC not improve anything after last week?

[Banquo]

End of Ford's England career though, Dingwall's, George's, LCD's, Steward's etc...

No mention of our annihilated back row?

Don't worry, just havent got to them yet

To me though, the issue is about quality, attitude, basics under pressure and approach rather than individuals. We can argue the toss over say 5 positions but it’s more fundamental imo.

[Scrumhead]

I don’t even know where to start. Awful from pretty much start to finish.

I just can’t understand how we’ve gone from looking good in November to looking rank bad in February.

Big question mark over Borthwick right now.