Re: COVID19
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:09 pm
What are the restrictions on isolating if you have a confirmed case of COVID there? If you were in the UK, I'd say that a cynic would note that the symptoms of flu/cold and COVID have a lot of overlap, but flu doesn't prevent you from sending your children into school and having to find childcare for them for 10 days.Stom wrote:This time of year is illness season normally. About a month after back to school.
But this year, it’s worse than ever, it feels. No cases among students, teachers or parents yet, only 1 positive for a cleaner at the school. But more than half my son’s nursery class are off sick at the moment with colds and flu, just standard things.
That’s crazy high.
Well officially… just don’t get tested.Puja wrote:What are the restrictions on isolating if you have a confirmed case of COVID there? If you were in the UK, I'd say that a cynic would note that the symptoms of flu/cold and COVID have a lot of overlap, but flu doesn't prevent you from sending your children into school and having to find childcare for them for 10 days.Stom wrote:This time of year is illness season normally. About a month after back to school.
But this year, it’s worse than ever, it feels. No cases among students, teachers or parents yet, only 1 positive for a cleaner at the school. But more than half my son’s nursery class are off sick at the moment with colds and flu, just standard things.
That’s crazy high.
Puja
Guardian wrote: Offshoot of Covid Delta variant on the rise in England
UK Health Security Agency monitoring AY.4.2 as daily cases at highest level since late July
A newly detected coronavirus variant is on the rise in England, with the virus believed to be an offshoot of Delta.
According to a briefing from the UK Health Security Agency, released on Friday, “a Delta sublineage newly designated as AY.4.2 is noted to be expanding in England”, with the body adding that the variant is being monitored and assessed.
The report states that in the week beginning 27 September – the last week for which complete sequencing data was available – AY.4.2 accounted for about 6% of sequenced coronavirus cases and is “on an increasing trajectory”.
AY.4.2 contains two mutations in its spike protein, called A222V and Y145H. The spike protein sits on the outside of the coronavirus and helps the virus to enter cells.
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Agreed, and it's because the government lacks the desire or competence to construct a functioning contact tracing system. We've had over 18 months to build it (and learn from the South Koreans and Taiwanese if necessary). But no.Which Tyler wrote:I'm sure I've posted this before; but there's a definite feeling of Deja Vu - even with vaccines reducing the severity of recommended actions (we're talking about mild restrictions, not lockdowns at the moment).
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The government is happy with 1000 deaths per week. I wonder what increase in this number would be unacceptable to them? I mean, have unacceptable political consequences for them, of course, they're clearly not concerned with the morality of it.Puja wrote:Meanwhile our government is saying they are sticking with "Plan A" rather than consider "Plan B" because we don't want to "jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy." Presumably we're reserving the use of Plan B for after we don't use any protection and get proper fucked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577
As a reminder, the Plan B that we couldn't possibly bring in contains such economy-tanking measures as "Making wearing a mask compulsory in some situations again", "Encouraging working from home", and "Communicating the need for caution."
Puja
This is the problem with our electoral and political system, compounded by utterly ineffective opposition, which has led to an amoral government realising that they can do anything they like and still be confident of winning the next election. We're going to end up cancelling Christmas again, killing thousands, and Boris will still be 5 points up in the polls - there is literally no accountability for him at all.Son of Mathonwy wrote:The government is happy with 1000 deaths per week. I wonder what increase in this number would be unacceptable to them? I mean, have unacceptable political consequences for them, of course, they're clearly not concerned with the morality of it.Puja wrote:Meanwhile our government is saying they are sticking with "Plan A" rather than consider "Plan B" because we don't want to "jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy." Presumably we're reserving the use of Plan B for after we don't use any protection and get proper fucked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577
As a reminder, the Plan B that we couldn't possibly bring in contains such economy-tanking measures as "Making wearing a mask compulsory in some situations again", "Encouraging working from home", and "Communicating the need for caution."
Puja
I read that and my first thought was that he couldn't survive cancelling Christmas again, could he?Puja wrote:This is the problem with our electoral and political system, compounded by utterly ineffective opposition, which has led to an amoral government realising that they can do anything they like and still be confident of winning the next election. We're going to end up cancelling Christmas again, killing thousands, and Boris will still be 5 points up in the polls - there is literally no accountability for him at all.Son of Mathonwy wrote:The government is happy with 1000 deaths per week. I wonder what increase in this number would be unacceptable to them? I mean, have unacceptable political consequences for them, of course, they're clearly not concerned with the morality of it.Puja wrote:Meanwhile our government is saying they are sticking with "Plan A" rather than consider "Plan B" because we don't want to "jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy." Presumably we're reserving the use of Plan B for after we don't use any protection and get proper fucked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577
As a reminder, the Plan B that we couldn't possibly bring in contains such economy-tanking measures as "Making wearing a mask compulsory in some situations again", "Encouraging working from home", and "Communicating the need for caution."
Puja
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My money's on an extra-marital affair.Son of Mathonwy wrote:There must be a breaking point where the nation will tire of him (or despise him, or whatever), but I've no idea what level of carnage, human or economic, that would require. Given the levels of both we've already seen. Based on recent experience it will probably be something trivial like Barnard Castle rather than anything important.
Actually, that's exactly the kind of thing that would happen. Run the country into the ground? Fine! Kill thousands with inept handling of a pandemic? Sure! Actively take food out of the mouths of undernourished children? No problem! Cheat on Carrie Simmonds? Finished.Which Tyler wrote:My money's on an extra-marital affair.Son of Mathonwy wrote:There must be a breaking point where the nation will tire of him (or despise him, or whatever), but I've no idea what level of carnage, human or economic, that would require. Given the levels of both we've already seen. Based on recent experience it will probably be something trivial like Barnard Castle rather than anything important.
That's my thinking. Incompetence, massed deaths, lies and broken promises, even raising taxes, don't even leave him with a single scratch.Puja wrote:Actually, that's exactly the kind of thing that would happen. Run the country into the ground? Fine! Kill thousands with inept handling of a pandemic? Sure! Actively take food out of the mouths of undernourished children? No problem! Cheat on Carrie Simmonds? Finished.
I dunno, I think he'd survive an affair. Everyone already knows what Johnson is like.Which Tyler wrote:That's my thinking. Incompetence, massed deaths, lies and broken promises, even raising taxes, don't even leave him with a single scratch.Puja wrote:Actually, that's exactly the kind of thing that would happen. Run the country into the ground? Fine! Kill thousands with inept handling of a pandemic? Sure! Actively take food out of the mouths of undernourished children? No problem! Cheat on Carrie Simmonds? Finished.
So it'll be something pathetic that makes no difference to his actual (nonexistent) ability to govern.
Added to which, of course, there's not a hope in hell that he "remains" faithful.
It has to be the right sort of hypocrisy, like the Barnard Castle, you follow the rules but we don't need to kind of thing. But yeah, I agree, they they're certainly not bothered about hypocrisy in general.Which Tyler wrote:When has the right ever worried about hypocrisy? They love it. They enjoy their own as it annoys the left, who can do nothing about it; and enjoy the left's as they then eat their own.