Too much carelessness from us all series.
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Cost us 17 runs, but more upsettingly 30 minutes. Thank the gods for that.
England need a massive morning. The openers need to pile on runs relatively quickly - don't need to be reckless and try to get 6 per over, but need to score quickly and big to give latitude for the likes of Brooks and Bairstow to kick on later. That no doubt means that we'll be 110-5 by lunch.
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England need a massive morning. The openers need to pile on runs relatively quickly - don't need to be reckless and try to get 6 per over, but need to score quickly and big to give latitude for the likes of Brooks and Bairstow to kick on later. That no doubt means that we'll be 110-5 by lunch.
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Fark. Needed a big opening stand
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Just seen the Duckett wicket - it's a good ball from Starc. I don't know whether that's better or worse than him getting out doing something stupid.
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We appear to be playing very cautiously so far, which is slightly worrying. I don't know we've got the skills to be defending and seeing off the bowlers before accumulating (especially with Australia's breadth of bowling options this test). We've already edged a few that could've gone to hand with a bit worse luck. The point of Bazball is to knock the stuffing out of the bowlers, or at least to get a quick 30 before getting a ball that's too good for you.
I am concerned that we'll end up with Moeen taking 50 deliveries to get 11 and then getting out anyway, when a more swashbuckling approach might see some of the pressure taken off.
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I am concerned that we'll end up with Moeen taking 50 deliveries to get 11 and then getting out anyway, when a more swashbuckling approach might see some of the pressure taken off.
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Hmm still scoring at nearly 4 an over despite losing a very early wicketPuja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:25 pm We appear to be playing very cautiously so far, which is slightly worrying. I don't know we've got the skills to be defending and seeing off the bowlers before accumulating (especially with Australia's breadth of bowling options this test). We've already edged a few that could've gone to hand with a bit worse luck. The point of Bazball is to knock the stuffing out of the bowlers, or at least to get a quick 30 before getting a ball that's too good for you.
I am concerned that we'll end up with Moeen taking 50 deliveries to get 11 and then getting out anyway, when a more swashbuckling approach might see some of the pressure taken off.
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And Moeen looks to have very much got his eye in (although no doubt he'll get out if I take too long writing this comment). I reserve the right to be wrong at all times and it looks like I'm going to have to use it here.Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:35 pmHmm still scoring at nearly 4 an over despite losing a very early wicketPuja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:25 pm We appear to be playing very cautiously so far, which is slightly worrying. I don't know we've got the skills to be defending and seeing off the bowlers before accumulating (especially with Australia's breadth of bowling options this test). We've already edged a few that could've gone to hand with a bit worse luck. The point of Bazball is to knock the stuffing out of the bowlers, or at least to get a quick 30 before getting a ball that's too good for you.
I am concerned that we'll end up with Moeen taking 50 deliveries to get 11 and then getting out anyway, when a more swashbuckling approach might see some of the pressure taken off.
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Think they've been smart trying to see off three of the best pace bowlers of the era- we do forget how good that trio are.Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:56 pmAnd Moeen looks to have very much got his eye in (although no doubt he'll get out if I take too long writing this comment). I reserve the right to be wrong at all times and it looks like I'm going to have to use it here.Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:35 pmHmm still scoring at nearly 4 an over despite losing a very early wicketPuja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:25 pm We appear to be playing very cautiously so far, which is slightly worrying. I don't know we've got the skills to be defending and seeing off the bowlers before accumulating (especially with Australia's breadth of bowling options this test). We've already edged a few that could've gone to hand with a bit worse luck. The point of Bazball is to knock the stuffing out of the bowlers, or at least to get a quick 30 before getting a ball that's too good for you.
I am concerned that we'll end up with Moeen taking 50 deliveries to get 11 and then getting out anyway, when a more swashbuckling approach might see some of the pressure taken off.
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It's the problem when there's three of them though - if there's one or two, then you can see them off, but when there's three they can just rotate on and off and there's very little respite. We're lucky they lost Lyon to injury - if they had him able to hold down an end, then they could just be rotating their dangermen the other end and barely even need to touch their all-rounder(s).Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:03 pmThink they've been smart trying to see off three of the best pace bowlers of the era- we do forget how good that trio are.
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even with three they'll be getting tired. But they are a three with better test figures/strike rates than even Broad and Anderson! Lyon is a big loss, but so is Stokes as a bowler and even Leach.Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:08 pmIt's the problem when there's three of them though - if there's one or two, then you can see them off, but when there's three they can just rotate on and off and there's very little respite. We're lucky they lost Lyon to injury - if they had him able to hold down an end, then they could just be rotating their dangermen the other end and barely even need to touch their all-rounder(s).
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Heh. Crawley trying to make Australia regret not picking a real spinner by smacking Head for 11 off his first three balls. He's been very good this summer (and I'll admit to being wrong for calling for his head at the start of the summer) - you'd like him to make more big scores, but he has been very consistent in providing a start at the top of the order and this is his chance to put in a very important big innings.
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Well done Crawley. He's come through some massive pressure and grown into Test cricket a bit at a time to turn into a very useful player. Huge innings today - he's ridden his luck on a few occasions, but he's been scoring at over a run a ball and has put England in a tremendous position to get a result in this match.
Now, come on lad - go for 150!
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Now, come on lad - go for 150!
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Moeen did a grand job, shame about how he got out having done the hard work.
Pleased for Crawley- always sets the tone even if he doesn’t kick on enough
Pleased for Crawley- always sets the tone even if he doesn’t kick on enough
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Bazball schmazball
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great knock from Crawley. Shame he didn't get 200 but hey.
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Tailor made for Brook here. Get his eye and and start weltering the ball to all corners. You almost don't mind if he gets 24 in 12 balls and gets out - we've still got Stokes and Bairstow to come. If we can get 150+ lead in quick time, that'll be just what we need to get a result.
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bad luck for root, deserved a ton
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Great days cricket from England. great knock from Crawley, ably assisted by Mo and Root. Tomorrow morning could be fun.
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Brook, Stokes, Bairstow, Woakes, Wood, Broad, given the challenge to make 100 in the quickest time possible. Could be carnage, although I'm not sure in which direction!fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:52 pm Great days cricket from England. great knock from Crawley, ably assisted by Mo and Root. Tomorrow morning could be fun.
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It's going to be an absolute riot!Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:45 pmBrook, Stokes, Bairstow, Woakes, Wood, Broad, given the challenge to make 100 in the quickest time possible. Could be carnage, although I'm not sure in which direction!fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:52 pm Great days cricket from England. great knock from Crawley, ably assisted by Mo and Root. Tomorrow morning could be fun.
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Kaiser Chiefs are lunchtime entertainmentDonny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:00 pmIt's going to be an absolute riot!Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:45 pmBrook, Stokes, Bairstow, Woakes, Wood, Broad, given the challenge to make 100 in the quickest time possible. Could be carnage, although I'm not sure in which direction!fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:52 pm Great days cricket from England. great knock from Crawley, ably assisted by Mo and Root. Tomorrow morning could be fun.
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With the forecast, I can't see the score particularly making a difference to the intended declaration (obviously, as high as possible, but...)Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:45 pmBrook, Stokes, Bairstow, Woakes, Wood, Broad, given the challenge to make 100 in the quickest time possible. Could be carnage, although I'm not sure in which direction!fivepointer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:52 pm Great days cricket from England. great knock from Crawley, ably assisted by Mo and Root. Tomorrow morning could be fun.
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Declare with enough time for 5 overs before lunch. If that means 140 up, then so be it; if it's 220 up, great.
We need to get as deep into the Aussie batsmen as possible today