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Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:18 am
by Puja
Two run-out chances missed by Australia already. I don't mind us getting out trying to slap the Australians around to keep the pace up, but it seems a bit bizarre to be risking our wickets for quick singles.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:35 am
by Which Tyler
Brook's decided to join in with some runs then.
Listening on TMS for the first time in... decades
Work still gets in the way, but... it's okay
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:39 am
by Banquo
Oz oddly passive. Measured for us, scoring at a casual 4.5 an over.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:50 am
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:39 am
Oz oddly passive.
Reminiscent of watching England in the late 90s Ashes - demoralised, broken, out of ideas, and effectively waiting until the opposing batsmen are done with them.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:52 am
by Banquo
in fairness they frustrated Stokes out
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:53 am
by Puja
I'm surprised we've not looked to go completely swing-happy already. It's hugely risky with so many players back on the boundary, but we also have a 120 run lead and 6 wickets in hand. Time is more important than not being bowled out and you'd've thought they'd look to go big.
And, with that, Stokes is bowled taking a swing at something. My timing is impeccable!
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:27 pm
by Which Tyler
IMO, time we declared and had a go at their top order.
Well done Aus for keeping us to 150-up, but... we need to be bowling
OK, new ball, that might make a difference - hit out or get out
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:30 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:53 am
I'm surprised we've not looked to go completely swing-happy already. It's hugely risky with so many players back on the boundary, but we also have a 120 run lead and 6 wickets in hand. Time is more important than not being bowled out and you'd've thought they'd look to go big.
And, with that, Stokes is bowled taking a swing at something. My timing is impeccable!
Puja
scoring at 4.5 is fine- the lead needs to be enough to make Oz think they have to score to get out of trouble. The weather is the tricky thing to judge.
Plus Oz have bowled very well in the last hour
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:03 pm
by Banquo
possible would have had 10 mins at the Aussies pre lunch. Prob would declare at lunch to save the 10 min switch over, but suspect they want as many as possible.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:06 pm
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:30 pm
scoring at 4.5 is fine- the lead needs to be enough to make Oz think they have to score to get out of trouble.
Too late I think - sounds like Aus are already confident that the weather will force a draw, and hand them the ashes
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:30 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:06 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:30 pm
scoring at 4.5 is fine- the lead needs to be enough to make Oz think they have to score to get out of trouble.
Too late I think - sounds like Aus are already confident that the weather will force a draw, and hand them the ashes
hmm. we shall see. Looks clear most of this pm and on and off Sunday. Sat looks pretty ropy.
Oz managed 24 overs, poor really, and we still scored 120+.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:35 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:30 pm
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:06 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:30 pm
scoring at 4.5 is fine- the lead needs to be enough to make Oz think they have to score to get out of trouble.
Too late I think - sounds like Aus are already confident that the weather will force a draw, and hand them the ashes
hmm. we shall see. Looks clear most of this pm and on and off Sunday. Sat looks pretty ropy.
Oz managed 24 overs, poor really, and we still scored 120+.
What is the benefit of squeezing another 20-30 runs out after lunch though? It's not like this is our second innings and we need to get all the runs we need here. Get Australia in and get bowling - if you're right and the weather holds, then we've got our entire batting lineup to chase a small target with, but if the weather doesn't, we need as much time at them as we can possibly get.
The only thought I can have is letting Bairstow get to his 50, but that does seem off-brand for this team. Maybe a con to make Australia think they're bowling and then throw the openers in with little prep?
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:41 pm
by Puja
Either that or Stokes is having a passive-aggressive go at all the people who criticised his attacking declaration on day 1 of the first test.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:43 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:35 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:30 pm
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:06 pm
Too late I think - sounds like Aus are already confident that the weather will force a draw, and hand them the ashes
hmm. we shall see. Looks clear most of this pm and on and off Sunday. Sat looks pretty ropy.
Oz managed 24 overs, poor really, and we still scored 120+.
What is the benefit of squeezing another 20-30 runs out after lunch though? It's not like this is our second innings and we need to get all the runs we need here. Get Australia in and get bowling - if you're right and the weather holds, then we've got our entire batting lineup to chase a small target with, but if the weather doesn't, we need as much time at them as we can possibly get.
The only thought I can have is letting Bairstow get to his 50, but that does seem off-brand for this team. Maybe a con to make Australia think they're bowling and then throw the openers in with little prep?
Puja
No idea, as I said I'd have declared before or during lunch. I do get the point- they don't want to have to bat again....but I don't agree. I think they've done well this am btw- had they gone snooker loopy and got themselves out cheapish, it would have nullified a lot of yesterday, and Oz bowled well.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:49 pm
by Banquo
that's fckd it....hover cover broken down and raining
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:24 pm
by Puja
I think the lesson to be learned from this innings is that we need to drop Duckett. Utter failure.
Puja
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm
by Banquo
99 problems and Jonny ain't one....now
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:14 pm
by Which Tyler
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm
99 problems and Jonny ain't one.... for now
FTFY
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:27 pm
by Banquo
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:14 pm
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm
99 problems and Jonny ain't one.... for now
FTFY
true but he has shown a lot of bottle in this game. All you can ask.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:36 pm
by Banquo
pitch seems to have died...Moeen poor 1st over as well.
Jimmy bowling well, but the nip has gorn I'd say.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:48 pm
by Banquo
don't understand how batsmen don't know they've edged it....weird review lost. (then again, I'm not a test opener but an ex village cricketer/idiot)
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:54 pm
by Banquo
dross from moeen. Wood looked well threatening.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:45 pm
by Banquo
Assume Wood was being saved for Smith. Get him on now.
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:57 pm
by Banquo
Why is wood not on- broad innocuous
Re: Cricket fred
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:31 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:57 pm
Why is wood not on- broad innocuous
Suspect you may have been right.
Puja