America

[Mikey Brown]

They can speak in complete sentences.

In Sanders case, it is what he says.

He moved from “I have nothing to be ashamed of” to “I never do anything wrong, and if it happens it is from infiltrated”. The latter is Trumpian.

BTW, what was he thinking when he wrote that cancer can be psicosomatic, the effect of a bad relationship with the mother or a female teacher? He is definitely less crazy now!!

What are you quoting?

[Mikey Brown]

Mild cognitive impairment with possible early dementia? Sure, anything but a woman. Women are dirty.

How many old white dudes does it take to change a light bulb?

Warren your gal then, Porky?

[morepork]

She's easily got the best track record fit for today's mild climate-changey wintry climate of inequality. She is the architect of a lot of consumer protection set in place after the financial sector lost it's rhythm and spunked the spawn of Goldman Sachs into the public belly.

But shes a geeky woman that will just get mansplained off the ticket, with the odd crying bilionaire thrown in for good measure.

[Mikey Brown]

She's easily got the best track record fit for today's mild climate-changey wintry climate of inequality. She is the architect of a lot of consumer protection set in place after the financial sector lost it's rhythm and spunked the spawn of Goldman Sachs into the public belly.

But shes a geeky woman that will just get mansplained off the ticket, with the odd crying bilionaire thrown in for good measure.

I'm not sure how to respond to the second bit. I'd like to think people can see through Bloomberg/Biden and that if she fails in her run it won't be down to mansplaining/not being able to get a word in. But I suppose it can't be ruled out. Zingers and snappy social media sound-bites seem to rule all and she's pretty good at those.

I like the idea of Warren but I'm not fully convinced she's not putting on an act.

If the mere suggestion of you reading a twitter thread doesn't send you into convulsions I'd be curious what your take is on this. You'll probably be 1000 times more equipped to make sense (or not) of it.



I'm not going to pretend to understand all the details on it, this is just another example I've seen that suggest her stance on healthcare - 'Bernie's has his head in the clouds, Warren has an actual plan!' - is a bit disingenuous. The 'Working Families Party' endorsement thing was another strange one involving (it seems) her daughter.

Fuck it. I dunno.

[Mikey Brown]

Then again, the thing about her lime green strap-on made her sound pretty badass.

[morepork]

I just don't think 'Murrica is ready to handle a woman in the top job. She is being coy about universal healthcare because that is what they will beat her about the head with. Ditto Sanders. Health insurance is a complex issue in the States, and nothing gets done in the health feild without it, including clinical trials for new drugs. Insurers are simply a non-negotiable obstacle that must be tackled whether you are testing a new drug or lobbying to fight for access to that drug, no one will do anything unless the activity is insured. I'm really reluctant to follow a line of investigation via twitter because it is more likley to result endless loop of anecdote and speculation. At the moment I see a capable professional that has a history of fierce advocacy for the consumer (and like it or not, the American public are considered consumers when it comes to health care). If there are skeletons in the closet, then this circus of a confirmation process should (in theory) out it.

[Mikey Brown]

I just don't think 'Murrica is ready to handle a woman in the top job. She is being coy about universal healthcare because that is what they will beat her about the head with. Ditto Sanders. Health insurance is a complex issue in the States, and nothing gets done in the health feild without it, including clinical trials for new drugs. Insurers are simply a non-negotiable obstacle that must be tackled whether you are testing a new drug or lobbying to fight for access to that drug, no one will do anything unless the activity is insured. I'm really reluctant to follow a line of investigation via twitter because it is more likley to result endless loop of anecdote and speculation. At the moment I see a capable professional that has a history of fierce advocacy for the consumer (and like it or not, the American public are considered consumers when it comes to health care). If there are skeletons in the closet, then this circus of a confirmation process should (in theory) out it.

I wouldn't call it that, it's just a block of text that happens to be on a different website, but I take your point.

Overall, fair enough. The "in theory" is the real clanger in there.

[gransoporro]

They can speak in complete sentences.

In Sanders case, it is what he says.

He moved from “I have nothing to be ashamed of” to “I never do anything wrong, and if it happens it is from infiltrated”. The latter is Trumpian.

BTW, what was he thinking when he wrote that cancer can be psicosomatic, the effect of a bad relationship with the mother or a female teacher? He is definitely less crazy now!!

What are you quoting?

An article from The NY Times, it is available only to subscribers so I cannot post it. He wrote that drivel 50 years ago. And also that too many orgasms cause cancer in women.

He is still a fan of alternative medicine, though. But as complementary to the “official medicine”, not as a replacement.

As I said, he is far less crazy now.

[gransoporro]

In Sanders case, it is what he says.

He moved from “I have nothing to be ashamed of” to “I never do anything wrong, and if it happens it is from infiltrated”. The latter is Trumpian.

BTW, what was he thinking when he wrote that cancer can be psicosomatic, the effect of a bad relationship with the mother or a female teacher? He is definitely less crazy now!!

What are you quoting?

An article from The NY Times, it is available only to subscribers so I cannot post it. He wrote that drivel 50 years ago. And also that too many orgasms cause cancer in women.

He is still a fan of alternative medicine, though. But as complementary to the “official medicine”, not as a replacement.

As I said, he is far less crazy now.

Correction, it was too few orgasms (sexual repression) that cause cancer in women.

My apologies.

[morepork]

OK, that is a little icky.

[Sandydragon]

Who cares if it’s true, I’ll make sure to mention that life saving advice to the missus!

[Coco]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

[gransoporro]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

I am registered as independent and quite frankly I find it hard to see the primary competition.

Warren was my preferred candidate, but she makes too many mistakes. Policy wise, no one comes even close. I have concerns on her character.

Klobuchar is second in my list. She doesn’t have a lot of following.

Buttigieg Seems to have character, I am not sure he has enough experience. Also policy wise I am not sure he has passion for any specific issue.

The other Bs? Too old. Yes, I am an ageist!

Harris was the one I hoped would fare better.



Gabbard? I don’t know why she hasn’t withdrawn from the field. I cannot see anything both in terms of character or policies. Or followers. She appears a lot on Fox: that is not where you get primary votes. It is suspicious.

[Digby]

Is Tulsi still trying to sue Hillary? Whatever idiot is behind that idea needs to be fired, it might get her some press right now but it's going to make it so much harder to last in politics and she's still very young

[Coco]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

I am registered as independent and quite frankly I find it hard to see the primary competition.

Warren was my preferred candidate, but she makes too many mistakes. Policy wise, no one comes even close. I have concerns on her character.

Klobuchar is second in my list. She doesn’t have a lot of following.

Buttigieg Seems to have character, I am not sure he has enough experience. Also policy wise I am not sure he has passion for any specific issue.

The other Bs? Too old. Yes, I am an ageist!

Harris was the one I hoped would fare better.



Gabbard? I don’t know why she hasn’t withdrawn from the field. I cannot see anything both in terms of character or policies. Or followers. She appears a lot on Fox: that is not where you get primary votes. It is suspicious.

Being in/from California, Harris was not a blip on my radar. I had hopes for a better Democrat or Indy candidate but it is not looking well for any of them to me. Everyone seems to be scrambling and cutting eachothers throats. Tulsi seemed ok but nobody really knew who she was.... and yeah Im not sure why she has not dropped out.

[Coco]

Is Tulsi still trying to sue Hillary? Whatever idiot is behind that idea needs to be fired, it might get her some press right now but it's going to make it so much harder to last in politics and she's still very young

No idea... Id tread carefully with the Clinton body count growing ..lol

[morepork]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

A woman with balls is needed. Nice one. Why do you think a woman needs to be thick skinned specifically? No one advanced gender over qualification on this thread. Gusto; noun; enjoyment or vigor in doing something. Warren has been consistently vigorous in a professional context for decades. She definitely has balls. I'm not a disciple of Warren by any stretch, but I aint seeing a more vigorous alternative in the circus yet. You've never felt oppressed a day in your life. Good for you. Why are women so underrepresented in positions of corporate and public power in America? Are you in fact actually inferior?


what do I think of Polynesian GI Jane? Not much.

[Digby]

That a women has to be thick skinned but a man doesn't to replace perhaps the most thin skinned president of our times is an interesting observation

[Mikey Brown]

[Coco]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

A woman with balls is needed. Nice one. Why do you think a woman needs to be thick skinned specifically? No one advanced gender over qualification on this thread. Gusto; noun; enjoyment or vigor in doing something. Warren has been consistently vigorous in a professional context for decades. She definitely has balls. I'm not a disciple of Warren by any stretch, but I aint seeing a more vigorous alternative in the circus yet. You've never felt oppressed a day in your life. Good for you. Why are women so underrepresented in positions of corporate and public power in America? Are you in fact actually inferior?


what do I think of Polynesian GI Jane? Not much.

I dont find Warren to be anything but a screeching gasbag... and by balls or thick skin I am referring to any woman up there not feeling she needs to throw down the "because I am a woman" card at every fucking turn. Ffs women arent under represented corporate or public power... and by what measure are you evenmaking that determination? You are assuming every woman in the work force wants that for themselves... not all of us do. Get over yourself.

[Digby]

I dont find Warren to be anything but a screeching gasbag.

You must hate Trump then

[morepork]

Coco smash!

Experience is my guide in that underrepresented statement. Observation. If 50% of a population are underrepresented in a sample space, and the probability of being selected in a sample of the whole population is assumed to be random, then significant deviations from a 50:50 gender split indicate selection bias. No black magic, simply the laws of probability at work, which are profoundly more objective than anecdote. If you are on the floor, why are you down there?

Thanks for she-mansplaning the normal distribution and deviations from. I just need to get over myself! So simple! Fuck facts, weak cliched metaphor is where it’s at.


That being said,

Good to hear from you after a long time snowflake.

[Coco]

Coco smash!

Experience is my guide in that underrepresented statement. Observation. If 50% of a population are underrepresented in a sample space, and the probability of being selected in a sample of the whole population is assumed to be random, then significant deviations from a 50:50 gender split indicate selection bias. No black magic, simply the laws of probability at work, which are profoundly more objective than anecdote. If you are on the floor, why are you down there?

Thanks for she-mansplaning the normal distribution and deviations from. I just need to get over myself! So simple! Fuck facts, weak cliched metaphor is where it’s at.


That being said,

Good to hear from you after a long time snowflake.

Hope you and yours are keeping healthy and 6 feet apart during this CoVid19 lockdown... and what is with everyone going mad and hoarding toilet paper? Seriously... what in the hell? I stocked up on hibiclens but toilet paper wasnt even on my radar... am I the weirdo then? Anyway hope you all are safe <3

[morepork]

Kia Ora my lovely. All good here. Scientists are high up in the food chain now. Getting on with getting on. Doing the odd grocery run for some old timers in the hood and keeping busy.

Be safe

[Eugene Wrayburn]

That a women has to be thick skinned but a man doesn't to replace perhaps the most thin skinned president of our times is an interesting observation

Quite.

And "screechy" has never been anything but a cipher for "not a man".

Anyone who doesn't think that women have any more obstacles than men might read Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez.