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Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:39 pm
by whatisthejava
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:whatisthejava wrote:Mellsblue wrote:
It's a fair point, assuming you beat Aus, but I think a couple of your younger, potentially world class players would benefit. J Gray and H Watson spring to mind. J Gray as future captain definitely would benefit. I hope he does go, mainly as I think he deserves to but also because I want him to become world class and I think the Lions in NZ will help him get there a bit quicker.
I think it would as well but if the Lions believe a team that are 8th in the world are better than a team that is 5th in the world then its up to them, not alot we can do , we can nash our teeth and moan about it but unlike previous years where its been a tour to RG or some tier 2 nations we have a chance at a new coach winning an away game in Australia
It's absolutely justifiable if the bloke who built the team that is in 8th is a complete fuckwit who has basically failed to get the best out of the team over a number of years.
Its justifyable if your the feckwit,
its also justifyable as most pundits are prefering other players to scots, scots have underperformed for years , a couple of good seasons doesnt change the fact that Scotland has been shite since 2000
Re: Lions
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:42 pm
by Big D
Well which ever player has been chosen as captain will now know I'd imagine. Must be a brilliant feeling.
Re: Lions
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:47 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Big D wrote:Well which ever player has been chosen as captain will now know I'd imagine. Must be a brilliant feeling.
Jesus no. I'd be shitting myself.
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:20 pm
by Big D
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Big D wrote:Well which ever player has been chosen as captain will now know I'd imagine. Must be a brilliant feeling.
Jesus no. I'd be shitting myself.
You would be shitting it too. But still would be a great feeling.
Re: Lions
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:42 pm
by Big D
Fucking hell rumours are launchbury and JJ won't be in and donnacha Ryan will be.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39624348
Launchbury not making it would be a massive shock.
Re: Lions
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:04 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
I've already pencilled Wednesday in for being furious. If JD2 goes ahead of JJ, I may have to upscale that to the next 3 months.
As for not taking Launchbury, I guess if you're going to take AWJ then you're pretty much going to be leaving someone better behind.
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:37 pm
by Big D
Rumours are Dr Roberts is in. Assume as tour doctor and it shouldn't be for playing.
He seems like a great bloke but that would be taking the piss.
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:42 pm
by baldilocks
JD2 and Roberts?
Gatland appears to be adopting the Woodwood Lions selection philosophy of "well, he was good several years ago"
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:55 pm
by Buggaluggs
Of course JD2 is going. Dr Bob and Scott Williams will need backup in the center. And he can play wing in a pinch if Cuthbert or North get hurt. And even FB if ½P goes down. Makes perfect sense to me.
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:01 pm
by ARM
The Telegraph 'leak' which names Roberts has 1 Scot in a 40 man squad.
And Keith Earls.
Tomorrow will be entertaining.
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:31 pm
by Big D
To be honest at this point if the leaks are true some of the English boys are more hard done to than the Scots.
Re: Lions
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:58 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
I simply cannot believe that Launchbury and Joseph are omitted. They are test candidates. I reckon these rumours are nonsense.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:52 am
by switchskier
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I simply cannot believe that Launchbury and Joseph are omitted. They are test candidates. I reckon these rumours are nonsense.
The cynic in me says that someone is starting these rumours so that we all think it isn't too bad when the squad is released, especially on the England players.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:57 am
by Spiffy
ARM wrote:The Telegraph 'leak' which names Roberts has 1 Scot in a 40 man squad.
And Keith Earls.
Tomorrow will be entertaining.
I could understand Earls being in. He's still a clinical finisher, has pace and has improved his defence tremendously. But Roberts...............
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:45 am
by af73
Mellsblue wrote:whatisthejava wrote:Mellsblue wrote:Disappointing responses, if I'm being honest. Where's the fight, lads? Kruis, as much as I rate him, is a ridiculous call.
Whats better for morale , getting pumped in NZ playing a crap style of rugby that wont work or going to Australia and beating them at home, Australia seem to be full on self destruct right now, so i think a great chance for Scotland to beat them,
It's a fair point, assuming you beat Aus, but I think a couple of your younger, potentially world class players would benefit. J Gray and H Watson spring to mind. J Gray as future captain definitely would benefit. I hope he does go, mainly as I think he deserves to but also because I want him to become world class and I think the Lions in NZ will help him get there a bit quicker.
Scotland's last two grand slams came off the back of healthy representations on the previous years Lions tours.
It's fair point that a number of emerging Scottish players would benefit hugely from the Lions experience as a developing Scotland team hopefully reaches its peak in the next couple of years 6 Nations tournaments and World Cup.
That would never enter the minds of the returning Welsh coaches at all of course.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:37 am
by whatisthejava
Big D wrote:To be honest at this point if the leaks are true some of the English boys are more hard done to than the Scots.
Yeah, some weird names. Either a complete misdirection to add genuine surprise to the announcement or some folk leaking to gently let down some players.
Hard to say, Gatland is such a prick it could be either
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:00 am
by Big D
whatisthejava wrote:Big D wrote:To be honest at this point if the leaks are true some of the English boys are more hard done to than the Scots.
Yeah, some weird names. Either a complete misdirection to add genuine surprise to the announcement or some folk leaking to gently let down some players.
Hard to say, Gatland is such a prick it could be either
To be fair. I'd imagine borthwick would have big input on forward selection.
Launchbury always seems to be the 1st one dropped for england.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:26 am
by whatisthejava
Picture leaked on twitter Warburton is captain
Seems like Seymore and Hogg will be going
no more
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:32 am
by Adder
whatisthejava wrote:Picture leaked on twitter Warburton is captain
Seems like Seymore and Hogg will be going
no more
What is your link?
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Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:37 am
by Adder
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:39 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
whatisthejava wrote:Picture leaked on twitter Warburton is captain
Seems like Seymore and Hogg will be going
no more
How does a picture on twitter prove anything?
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:40 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
I retract my previous statement. That looks pretty real lol.
Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:40 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
I don't have an issue with Warburton as tour captain anyway. Some of these rumoured selections and omissions are rank rotten though.
Re: RE: Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:41 am
by Adder
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:I retract my previous statement. That looks pretty real lol.
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Re: Lions
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:45 am
by Lizard
Is this real enough for you...