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Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:18 pm
by rowan
I just think French rugby has suffered the same fate as many international soccer teams in the modern era in that the emphasis is mostly on the powerful clubs, which are filled with foreign players, while the test team is little more than an after-thought. It's kind of good for rugby, in fact, as we see teams like Georgia and the Maghrebs emerging with largely French-based national teams; just as we've seen African nations excelling at soccer with mostly European-based players, but unfortunately it is Les Bleus who are paying the price. Mind you, we are talking about France, after all. Don't be too surprised if they pop up in the World Cup final next year...
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:29 am
by rowan
Seems the FFR read my previous post:
Bernard Laporte, FFR president, just declares he wants to reduce the number of outsider players in Top 14 and Pro D2, as it is done in Fédérale : https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... -14/858707
In Fédérale, the regulations are link with licences.
Licence A : french players, or outsiders with 7 years of french licence
Licence B : EU members
Licence C : non EU members
In Féd 1 : maximum 5 B and 1 C per game sheet --> to be reduced by one for next season, and another one for 2019, so only 4 outsiders
In Féd 2 and 3 : only 4 outsiders per game sheet, to be reduced to 3 and 2
This could impact many nations with strong links to France. Especially Georgia and Pacific Islanders, if such regulations applied to Top 14 and Pro D2. Fortunately EU members players could still come to develop.
https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... -14/858707
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:46 am
by rowan
Whether or not this move will restore Les Bleus to their former glories remains to be seen, but I suspected the real losers could be Georgia, who have so many of their national team players based in France. Will they now flock to Britain or Italy? The Pacific Islanders will probably do the same - or else return Down Under and try to get Super Rugby contracts. If Andrew Forrest's Indo-Pacific league gets off the ground, that could be a godsend to them, while they themselves will provide a welcome player resource. Of course, there is no guarantee the French will replace them with Frenchmen. They might simply look more toward fellow EU members. I believe most of the Spanish team is already playing there. & a lot of North Africans will already qualify through dual citizenship, for example.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:03 pm
by rowan
10th in the rankings. All time low, and behind Fiji!. Although I think they're beginning to show signs of recovery and there wasn't much disgrace in losing at the death to this very good Irish team, who are ranked 3rd in the world.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:47 am
by rowan
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:54 pm
by rowan
French team members detained by Scottish police after a fight broke out in a bar after the Murrayfield encounter:
https://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites ... nce/875172
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/6-nation ... tory.shtml
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:21 pm
by Stones of granite
https://www.scotsman.com/news/french-ru ... -1-4687534
The players were quizzed before their Jet2 charter flight to Paris was due to leave Edinburgh this morning at 11am, but police have confirmed that no crime was committed. Reports in France this morning claimed there had been an incident at the Tigerlily Bar on Edinburgh’s George Street after the Six Nations loss to Scotland at BT Murrayfield.
It is understood that the French players questioned were spoken to by police as potential witnesses.
Tigerlily Events Manager Jo McKinnell confirmed that the French players had been in the bar on Sunday night but said there had been no incidents.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:31 pm
by rowan
Yes, French radio reported it was a sexual assault allegation as well.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm
by rowan
France head coach Jacques Brunel has dropped all the players involved in an alleged incident in Edinburgh on Sunday night from his Six Nations squad.
Louis Picamoles, Anthony Belleau, Jonathan Danty, Remi Lamerat, and Felix Lambey were all questioned by police in Scotland, who determined that no crime had been committed after their enquiries following up reports of a brawl at a city centre bar in Edinburgh.
All five, along with Alexandre Lapandry, Arthur Iturria and winger Teddy Thomas, who has been France’s star man having scored three tries so far, have been omitted from the squad to face Italy in Marseille on February 23.
The FFR said in a statement on Tuesday:
“Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland.”
“By this inappropriate behaviour, they have disrespected their status as an international player and the duties that go with it.”
http://rugbylad.ie/france-drop-players- ... ons-squad/
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:13 pm
by Stones of granite
It’s only right that they should be properly punished for not committing any crimes.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:44 pm
by rowan
I can only assume they were under strict orders not to go out, in which case they deserve to be dropped for the next game. & what a break for Italy! If they can't back themselves to roll over a weakened French team that has just slipped to 10th in the rankings behind Fiji, they might as well just step aside and let Georgia take their place tomorrow!
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:26 pm
by Which Tyler
Stones of granite wrote:It’s only right that they should be properly punished for not committing any crimes.
Doesn't mention any crimes at all, just the absolutely standard curfew.
“Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland.”
“By this inappropriate behaviour, they have disrespected their status as an international player and the duties that go with it.”
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:06 am
by Stones of granite
Which Tyler wrote:Stones of granite wrote:It’s only right that they should be properly punished for not committing any crimes.
Doesn't mention any crimes at all, just the absolutely standard curfew.
“Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland.”
“By this inappropriate behaviour, they have disrespected their status as an international player and the duties that go with it.”
It is now inappropriate behaviour to go out for a few drinks after a Rugby game?
Joyless bastards. If that’s professional Rugby, you can shove it.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:06 pm
by Which Tyler
Stones of granite wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Stones of granite wrote:It’s only right that they should be properly punished for not committing any crimes.
Doesn't mention any crimes at all, just the absolutely standard curfew.
“Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland.”
“By this inappropriate behaviour, they have disrespected their status as an international player and the duties that go with it.”
It is now inappropriate behaviour to go out for a few drinks after a Rugby game?
Joyless bastards. If that’s professional Rugby, you can shove it.
Welcome to... what? 2001 or so
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:56 pm
by Stones of granite
Which Tyler wrote:Stones of granite wrote:Which Tyler wrote:
Doesn't mention any crimes at all, just the absolutely standard curfew.
“Jacques Brunel has decided to exclude from that list the players who went out after the defeat in Scotland.”
“By this inappropriate behaviour, they have disrespected their status as an international player and the duties that go with it.”
It is now inappropriate behaviour to go out for a few drinks after a Rugby game?
Joyless bastards. If that’s professional Rugby, you can shove it.
Welcome to... what? 2001 or so
1991 more like
I never claimed to be "with it"
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:53 am
by rowan
French Rugby chiefs have launched an investigation that could recommend sanctions for a number of players who were involved in “inappropriate behaviour” in Edinburgh over the weekend.
Eight players who went out in Edinburgh after the defeat were omitted from the squad for the next game against Italy.
“The President of the French Rugby Federation (FFR) Bernard Laporte has decided to conduct an internal investigation to shed light on the course of the evening,” said the FFR in a statement.
The eight players axed from the squad for the match against Italy on February 23 in Marseille were Teddy Thomas, Louis Picamoles, Arthur Iturria, Anthony Belleau, Jonathan Danty, Sekou Macalou, Remi Lamerat and Felix Lambey.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/escalati ... h-incident
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 pm
by rowan
Looks to be live. Hopefully posting it on this thread will prove prophetic...

Stopped right at the kick-off. I guess that was a
rugby-tease...
Apparently the French ran riot in the U20 fixture, 72-13 or something . . .
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:14 pm
by WaspInWales
Dreadful from Barnes. That was never grounded.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 pm
by WaspInWales
I'm not sure the penalty try was the right call either...but it got Barnes off the hook I suppose.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:26 pm
by rowan
You guys are my eyes this evening. I have no feed. 5-7 according to the tracker.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:32 pm
by WaspInWales
The tracker is correct.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:34 pm
by WaspInWales
8-7
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:43 pm
by francoisfou
Are Italy sponsored by Emmanuel Macron as the President's name is emblazoned on their jerseys?
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:51 pm
by Sandydragon
WaspInWales wrote:I'm not sure the penalty try was the right call either...but it got Barnes off the hook I suppose.
Tight call. I think he was determined that France had collapsed the rolling maul and looked for a reason to give it.
Not a great game. Lots of huff and puff, not too much skill. The key question for the second half is on how fit the French are.
Overall, this feels like a wooden spoon play off.
Re: The Fall of France
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:10 pm
by J Dory
Didn't see the first half, second is dire so far.