Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:41 pm
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Is O’Mahony not eligible for selection?paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:16 pm Prendergast starting
Dan Sheehan on bench
Baird starts at 6 with James Ryan in the row over Mccarthy
Ye won't be throwing to 6 much I'd say but definitely room yo win the breakdown/jackal contest
Droppedjngf wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:21 pmIs O’Mahony not eligible for selection?paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:16 pm Prendergast starting
Dan Sheehan on bench
Baird starts at 6 with James Ryan in the row over Mccarthy
Ye won't be throwing to 6 much I'd say but definitely room yo win the breakdown/jackal contest
I know he was getting on but his doggedness would have come in handy for Irelandpaddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:26 pmDroppedjngf wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:21 pmIs O’Mahony not eligible for selection?paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:16 pm Prendergast starting
Dan Sheehan on bench
Baird starts at 6 with James Ryan in the row over Mccarthy
Ye won't be throwing to 6 much I'd say but definitely room yo win the breakdown/jackal contest
It's time to move on, and if we lose we shouldn't revert back
For the past 2-3 seasons Furlong's scrummaging has been pretty average. He is not the force of old. His replacement, Bealham, is a pretty good all-rounder in tight and loose and is perhaps underrated by some.Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:24 pmIs Furlong still the scrummaging force he was? His loose play is still very good.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:21 pmYou can’t be serious.FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:13 pm Well that's not what I expected. Are we doubling down on line speed and going with maximum blitz for the first half, looking to be a niggly menace at the breakdown and then playing at tempo in attack or probably more likely with a big kick chase game. As the game breaks up we presumably unload the bench for ball carrying physicality and look to attack.
Not sure about Murley in this one, he might be targeted but his tache is fantastic and will surely mesmerise the Irish. It also means we now have a rapid back three...
Not a lot of weight in the back three, not sure that helps us take advantage of Ireland missing Furlong. Some weight to try and take advantage at scrum time was what I was expecting.
Also do you mean the back three of the scrum re: weight advantage? I don’t honestly know how Furlong’s backups compare in that area.
Farrell isn't with Ireland this 6N as he's prepping for the Lions. Simon Easterby (another northern lad, from Yorkshire) is taking the reins for the 6N. Doesn't have much head coach experience and so Borthwick confidently laying out a surprise team selection early in the week might be a bit of mind games. "Here you go Simon, what you going to do with this then". Whether that works or not who knows. Feels prime Eddie/Gats style media tactics from Borthwick.
I would say it's definitely a factor, although it does have the advantage that there's a lot more ideas coming into the international environment, rather than just everyone conforming to the Leinster plan. I don't think it's a critical factor though - Scotland and South Africa seem to manage all right with half their teams spread over the globe.
Aye. I was just considering those stats of entry into oppo 22 and the points return.Puja wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:40 pmI would say it's definitely a factor, although it does have the advantage that there's a lot more ideas coming into the international environment, rather than just everyone conforming to the Leinster plan. I don't think it's a critical factor though - Scotland and South Africa seem to manage all right with half their teams spread over the globe.
Puja
21 year old FH! He must feel like he's got loads of grand-dads around him.FKAS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:05 pm IRELAND TEAM TO FACE ENGLAND
Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Sam Prendergast, Jamison Gibson-Park; Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Finlay Bealham; James Ryan, Tadhg Beirne; Ryan Baird, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris (capt).
Replacements: Dan Sheehan, Cian Healy, Thomas Clarkson, Iain Henderson, Jack Conan, Conor Murray, Jack Crowley, Robbie Henshaw.
Strange to talk about “cohesion deficit” and then pick a side with no more than 3 players from each club and with not a single club relationship in place (front row, hooker to lineout, 8 to 9, 9-10, centre pairing, back 3). It’s no surprise we’re disjointed when this is the case.Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:04 pm -----Reviews of the autumn campaign revealed that given England’s “cohesion deficit”, something as simple as Smith’s first step outwards, sometimes with a skip, at first receiver would have a ripple effect on the back line’s alignment because it forces those players outside him to change their start positions and their running lines.
Exactly this- I may have said similar- and tbh it's as much about familiarity and 'reading' him; plus I think he does need someone to bail him out when it's out of synch (commonly known as big Andre).
well yes....Captainhaircut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:13 pmStrange to talk about “cohesion deficit” and then pick a side with no more than 3 players from each club and with not a single club relationship in place (front row, hooker to lineout, 8 to 9, 9-10, centre pairing, back 3). It’s no surprise we’re disjointed when this is the case.Banquo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:04 pm -----Reviews of the autumn campaign revealed that given England’s “cohesion deficit”, something as simple as Smith’s first step outwards, sometimes with a skip, at first receiver would have a ripple effect on the back line’s alignment because it forces those players outside him to change their start positions and their running lines.
Exactly this- I may have said similar- and tbh it's as much about familiarity and 'reading' him; plus I think he does need someone to bail him out when it's out of synch (commonly known as big Andre).
If you want cohesion you can easily get it- pick Mitchell and fin smith at half back, Dingwall at 12 with Freeman (with Hendy, furbank, sleightholme back 3?) or ojomoh and Lawrence. Or go Porter and smith with Northmore, beard and Murley outside.
These things aren’t impossible and you might actually get a better side even if you pick lesser players in some cases.
You can’t complain about it and do nothing to fix it.