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Cue a Bairstow double hundred in the 4th test....

Unlikely. Brook will come back in and YJB will be the one who is left out. Or should be.
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I don't get the histrionics going on in the press about "This could be the end for Bazball." Yes, it was an incredibly impressive defeat that we engineered for ourselves, but also it's India at home. Sides will get dicked by India at home - it's just going to happen. One shitty performance shouldn't require us to even consider chucking out our whole approach, given how well it's gone for us previously.

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Puja wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:54 pm I don't get the histrionics going on in the press about "This could be the end for Bazball." Yes, it was an incredibly impressive defeat that we engineered for ourselves, but also it's India at home. Sides will get dicked by India at home - it's just going to happen. One shitty performance shouldn't require us to even consider chucking out our whole approach, given how well it's gone for us previously.

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It’s because the likes of Vaughan and other older hacks don’t like their status quo ‘of how Test Cricket should be played’ being challenged. And forgetting that’s it’s been brilliant by and large, with matches being won from impossible positions against the grain of ‘history’
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After Crawley & YJB, Root and Foakes are scoring at less than 0.5/ball, 'steadilly'...a sensible response some say.
Bazball maybe being re-defined as we speak.. :
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Galfon wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:58 am After Crawley & YJB, Root and Foakes are scoring at less than 0.5/ball, 'steadilly'...a sensible response some say.
Bazball maybe being re-defined as we speak.. :
Root and Foakes playing sensible cricket.
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Galfon wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:58 am After Crawley & YJB, Root and Foakes are scoring at less than 0.5/ball, 'steadilly'...a sensible response some say.
Bazball maybe being re-defined as we speak.. :
Bazball's always been adaptable to the situation though - it was never about swinging for every ball, no matter the conditions. The pundits are making out like it's "Root and Foakes going into their shells and abandoning Bazball", but they're doing the same - attacking the bad balls, playing bold shots like sweeps, but on a very uneven pitch against a very good attack. Let's not forget that 0.5/ball is 3 runs an over, something which previous English batting styles in this situation could only have dreamed of.

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Puja wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:52 am
Galfon wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:58 am After Crawley & YJB, Root and Foakes are scoring at less than 0.5/ball, 'steadilly'...a sensible response some say.
Bazball maybe being re-defined as we speak.. :
Bazball's always been adaptable to the situation though - it was never about swinging for every ball, no matter the conditions. The pundits are making out like it's "Root and Foakes going into their shells and abandoning Bazball", but they're doing the same - attacking the bad balls, playing bold shots like sweeps, but on a very uneven pitch against a very good attack. Let's not forget that 0.5/ball is 3 runs an over, something which previous English batting styles in this situation could only have dreamed of.

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agreed, this 'its all about daft shots' is complete crap touted by the likes of Vaughan, Agnew (and p/d :lol: ). Its always been about seizing the moment in the right way, and looking to win- just look at how Stokes has been varying his innings in this period. As you say, they are scoring at a rate that still enables us to look to win the game.
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Tremendous innings by Root, with great support by Foakes (and then Hartley and Robinson down the order). Getting to 302-7 from 112-5 is a fantastic result and you'd have to say over par for this track (especially since we don't have to bat last). Any runs tomorrow morning will be bonuses and, if we can get to 350, it'll put us in a very strong position.

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What a load of tosh.
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p/d wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:05 pm What a load of tosh.
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Puja wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:18 pm
p/d wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:05 pm What a load of tosh.
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p\d's stubborn defence of not so stubborn defence?
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Puja wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:18 pm
p/d wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:05 pm What a load of tosh.
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Not your post Puja.

It was the irony behind the ‘crap touted’ comment.
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Whatever anyone has to say about the style of play, I don't think it can be denied that the current regime are the best selectors that England have ever had. Bashir is the latest in a line of decisions where a selection looks wild, hopeful, and desperate, and every time McCullum et al have been proven right.

I especially like that we haven't gone with our usual trick in touring India of picking the two steadiest trundlers of spin in the County Championship - the likes of Batty. Bess, Dawson, Tredwell - who just take up a space in the XV for a few tests, get a couple of wickets and then go home without having made any impact on selectors minds, but have instead skipped over the never-will-bes in favour of actual, dangerous, talent. Leach went into this series guaranteed a place in the standard XI when we get back to pace pitches, mostly just by default than because any opposition would be scared of him. Now, he faces a real fight on his hands against Hartley, Bashir, and Ahmed.

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p/d wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:47 am
Puja wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:18 pm
p/d wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:05 pm What a load of tosh.
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Not your post Puja.

It was the irony behind the ‘crap touted’ comment.
There’s truth in irony 😂. Vaughan has been touting crap for a long while now- he’s just grumpy because Stokes looks like being a better skipper than him. Not sure what your beef is tho.
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shame we shipped so many for the last 3 wickets :(

Old Pope only been blessed once this series so far- he's a poor starter.
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In the balance now - just need Crawley/Root to keep clocking up
the lead. Ind seem content to keep a lid on it rather than going for it.
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Galfon wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:29 am In the balance now - just need Crawley/Root to keep clocking up
the lead. Ind seem content to keep a lid on it rather than going for it.
Root a bit harshly done by there.
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squeaky bum time. Need at least another 100.
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Banquo wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:21 am squeaky bum time. Need at least another 100.
5 gone for 23 runs now has nobbled that - hopefully the tail has a twitch or two :(
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The beauty of cricket.in one day it has gone from looking like 2-2 to 3-1
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Jesus H Fuck that is a ridiculous sized swing in the direction of a game over one day.

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p/d wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:48 am The beauty of cricket.in one day it has gone from looking like 2-2 to 3-1
one session tbh.
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Nail biter
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p/d wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:20 amNail biter
Prob only about 50 short plus a bit more spin experience
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