no argument from me on that summary. And definitely being spun. I'll just add the tone of the Warriors' statement is very terse. They ain't happyBig D wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:16 pm There's definitely spin there either from Edinburgh's end or Price's. Players only suddenly move between Edinburgh and Glasgow in this way if there is an issue. There are probably four realistic scenarios:
1. Steele's injury is worse than they are letting on and "returning to training" doesn't mean close to playing and Vellacott's personal issue requires a leave of absence. I have seen stories his young child is very ill, I really hope that is bollocks.
2. Price had an issue with Smith over something like playing time. This seems very unlikely.
3. The SRU have decided under direction from GT to parachute Price in over a co-captain after 3 league games without doing it straight from the RWC or making the move rather than signing Steele. Would be typical SRU nonsense given 9 hasn't been a major issue so far.
4. Price has been told he isn't getting a new deal, or told the SRU he isn't wanting a new deal and this have been made as a short term fix as Edinburgh may offer him a deal. Glasgow said "Glasgow Warriors thanks Ali Price for his service over the past ten years" which doesn't sound like they are in a hurry to keep him.
There more to this than will ever publicly be said and the statement is protecting someone.
The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
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its funny how Edin have basically been found the money after budgets well set and spent to bring in a high earner (Price), just as they were found the money to bring back Duhan when he became redundant, again after budgets well set and spent. Funny.
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Tell you what. You can have Price back if you like if you send us Darge back home
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Ah yes. Edinburgh must be down to only 17 backrows now with Bradbury gone.switchskier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:02 amTell you what. You can have Price back if you like if you send us Darge back home
Incidentally he seems to have really found his feet playing 8 every week for Bristol.
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My gut feeling is that no.4 is definitely a factor as it is this time of year deals start getting discussed with a bit of 3 and hopefully nothing to do with 1. The reality is, that while some players don't have a choice about being moved on, Price would have some sway if he didn't want a move. The early/mid season move is something a Dobie or Shiel type would be forced into, not a 60odd cap Lion who is currently Scotland's first choice 9.septic 9 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:49 amno argument from me on that summary. And definitely being spun. I'll just add the tone of the Warriors' statement is very terse. They ain't happyBig D wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:16 pm There's definitely spin there either from Edinburgh's end or Price's. Players only suddenly move between Edinburgh and Glasgow in this way if there is an issue. There are probably four realistic scenarios:
1. Steele's injury is worse than they are letting on and "returning to training" doesn't mean close to playing and Vellacott's personal issue requires a leave of absence. I have seen stories his young child is very ill, I really hope that is bollocks.
2. Price had an issue with Smith over something like playing time. This seems very unlikely.
3. The SRU have decided under direction from GT to parachute Price in over a co-captain after 3 league games without doing it straight from the RWC or making the move rather than signing Steele. Would be typical SRU nonsense given 9 hasn't been a major issue so far.
4. Price has been told he isn't getting a new deal, or told the SRU he isn't wanting a new deal and this have been made as a short term fix as Edinburgh may offer him a deal. Glasgow said "Glasgow Warriors thanks Ali Price for his service over the past ten years" which doesn't sound like they are in a hurry to keep him.
There more to this than will ever publicly be said and the statement is protecting someone.
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I still maintain Watson was the one Edinburgh should have let go of. My view hasn't changed since before Darge moved.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:08 amAh yes. Edinburgh must be down to only 17 backrows now with Bradbury gone.switchskier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:02 amTell you what. You can have Price back if you like if you send us Darge back home
Incidentally he seems to have really found his feet playing 8 every week for Bristol.
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Vellacott benching for Edinburgh so something has gone on because they can't be stupid enough to randomly make that call at this point.
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Watson or Boyle. Loads of nonsense being spouted that Edinburgh chose to keep Boyle because he was thought to be the superior prospect which is revisionist nonsense. Darge was always the one.Big D wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:38 amI still maintain Watson was the one Edinburgh should have let go of. My view hasn't changed since before Darge moved.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:08 amAh yes. Edinburgh must be down to only 17 backrows now with Bradbury gone.switchskier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:02 am
Tell you what. You can have Price back if you like if you send us Darge back home
Incidentally he seems to have really found his feet playing 8 every week for Bristol.
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reality is Darge got about 10minutes for Edinburgh, and wasn't likely to get much more with Watson and Crosbie vying for the 7 shirt, plus very numerous other backrows. Reality was that Edin signed, were allowed to sign both outstanding openside prospects from the same U20 side and chose to keep one and not the other. Darge was felt to be expendable. Then again it all happened under that genius Cockerill, who managed to piss off a number of players who left as a consequence. Good playersswitchskier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:39 pmWatson or Boyle. Loads of nonsense being spouted that Edinburgh chose to keep Boyle because he was thought to be the superior prospect which is revisionist nonsense. Darge was always the one.Big D wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:38 amI still maintain Watson was the one Edinburgh should have let go of. My view hasn't changed since before Darge moved.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:08 am
Ah yes. Edinburgh must be down to only 17 backrows now with Bradbury gone.
Incidentally he seems to have really found his feet playing 8 every week for Bristol.
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tell you what Glasgow only get sent players Edin do not want. Edin get players from Glasgow we both want. Now about that budget......switchskier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:02 amTell you what. You can have Price back if you like if you send us Darge back home
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Just read that GT requested the move to get Price more game time.
In more important news, Glasgow get another BP win. Seemingly won ugly away at Ospreys, which is a proper result, and makes a very decent start to the season.
In more important news, Glasgow get another BP win. Seemingly won ugly away at Ospreys, which is a proper result, and makes a very decent start to the season.
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the official Glasgow announcement sad it came after an approach from the Scottish National team and Edinburgh Rugby. Edinburgh's senior coach said we needed a scrum half (from Glasgow, my brackets) and Ali was the one who agreed to join us.Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:59 pm Just read that GT requested the move to get Price more game time.
It stinks. Dobie injured yesterday so we played half the game with a 32 year old part time player. Next off the bench is an academy player. Just like Edinburgh allegedly would have been had Price not moved. Except Vellacott came off the bench and won MoM (an emotional award for me, only played half a game and did well but not MoM). Now have 3 scrum halfs going to be in contention for Edinburgh, someone isn't going to get game time eh?
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very ugly. Or very very ugly. Warriors were rank.Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:59 pm In more important news, Glasgow get another BP win. Seemingly won ugly away at Ospreys, which is a proper result, and makes a very decent start to the season.
Several maul tries and the boot of Duncy Weir, who had a dreadful first half, as did Dobie. It was back to passing to players who weren't there, over running ball carriers, just met in the car park pre game stuff.
No idea how they came away with a BP win and denied Ospreys a Losing BP, and I watched it!
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BP win against Ulster is fwcin awesome.
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and were down 0-14 pretty early. After that dominated. Was extremely cold but had Glasgow not fumbled so many passes and messed lineouts could have been a lot bigger margin. A lot bigger
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Victory over Ulster was <a href="https://twitter.com/GlasgowWarriors?ref ... arriors</a>' 19th in a row in home regular season games in the <a href="https://twitter.com/URCOfficial?ref_src ... fficial</a> - the club's best streak ever. <br><br>Glasgow have collected 88 points out of a possible 95 in these matches. <br><br>Their opponents have travelled home with 6 Losing BPS & 0 Try BPs. <a href="https://t.co/PhYwkWrDri">https://t.co/PhYwkWrDri</a></p>— Kevin Millar (@topofthemoonGW) <a href=" 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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2 wks in a row Glasgow have failed to come out of the starting blocks. This week too far behind to catch up. 26-5 down IIRC at HT. BUT.....they sneeked back into it and for a brief few mins looked like they might not just nick a LBP but even a win. Then fell away again
Scored 5 tries. every one off a maul. But no other serious weapons and Munster maul defence was laughable.
It could have been a lot worse, got away from Munster with try BP, but Glasgow shown to be well short of a top side. No half backs. From hero last week to zero this week, Kennedy was awful. Thanks SRU. Weir, presumably picked for his goal kicking got 1 from 4 I think (his filed kicking was excellent though).
Scored 5 tries. every one off a maul. But no other serious weapons and Munster maul defence was laughable.
It could have been a lot worse, got away from Munster with try BP, but Glasgow shown to be well short of a top side. No half backs. From hero last week to zero this week, Kennedy was awful. Thanks SRU. Weir, presumably picked for his goal kicking got 1 from 4 I think (his filed kicking was excellent though).
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5 maul tries is weirdly both great and awful. Despite the result, giving yourself a chance to win against Munster away despite playing badly isn't the worst position to be in, as long as the mistakes are recognized and corrected.
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Was at the game last night result was never in doubt
Do Glasgow only practice lineouts and mauls!
Glasgow seemed to lack a bit of needle/confrontation that you'd normally expect
Do Glasgow only practice lineouts and mauls!
Glasgow seemed to lack a bit of needle/confrontation that you'd normally expect
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aye, seemed a bit distanced at times. Lacked a Fagerson or twopaddy no 11 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:54 pm Glasgow seemed to lack a bit of needle/confrontation that you'd normally expect
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Warrior's team away to Bayonne. First glance suggests Smith has written off the competition this season after losing at home ast week. Second look at their squad update shows a horrendous injury list .
Very very much at best 2nd pick locks and back rows.
Only plus is Thomson gets a start and a chance to prove his worth.
Bayonne have an excellent squad, I fear for the weegies
Very very much at best 2nd pick locks and back rows.
Only plus is Thomson gets a start and a chance to prove his worth.
Bayonne have an excellent squad, I fear for the weegies
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Well done Glasgow but I have no idea how they managed to win that when they lost something like lost 7 out of 8 lineouts after Fraser came on.
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Aye BaldiePete a great result despite the lineout and maul malfunctions, but credit our opponents for their homework as well as us needing to be a lot more accurate. Very happy with the result despite the players we left at home. Two excellent tries and a shame Smith just couldn't stay in touch for his effort early on - hope his injury isn't too serious.
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Not the best game but weather didn't help. Glasgow with a couple of pieces of nice play at the right time to win it.