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Les mighty frogs
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:16 pm
by tigran
Le XV de départ face à l'Irlande : 15. Palis ; 14. Thomas, 12. Chavancy, 13. Lamerat, 11. Vakatawa ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Machenaud ; 7. Camara, 8. Gourdon, 6. Lauret ; 5.Vahaamahina , 4.Iturria ; 3. Slimani, 2. Guirado (cap), 1. Poirot.
Les remplaçants : 16. Pelissié, 17. Priso, 18. Gomez SA, 19. Gabrillagues, 20. Tauleigne, 21. Dupont, 22. Belleau, 23. Fall
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:48 am
by Adder
Enfin une 3eme ligne equilibrée?
Je n'ai jamais vu Palis en action.
Ca va etre un gros test pour Jalibert.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:26 am
by francoisfou
Adder wrote:Enfin une 3eme ligne equilibrée?
Je n'ai jamais vu Palis en action.
Ca va etre un gros test pour Jalibert
1. Je ne crois pas! On verra.
2. Moi non plus.
3. Oui, et j'espère qu'il jouerai tout le tournoi et pas seulement un match.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:20 pm
by tigran
Je voulais Macalou...
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:49 pm
by kk67
Where is Serin..?. 9 days ago he was starting.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:01 pm
by tigran
Parra was the main player at 9, after his injury it could only be Machenaud to support Jalibert... And Serin has not been brilliant lately
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:18 pm
by kk67
That's disappointing. Baptiste-Serin has been very exciting.
Looked like test level was nothing to him.
I mean he played well.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:38 pm
by tigran
He'll probably be back, there's no shortage of potential at 9 also..But he'll be back on the mix sooner or later if he makes the right thing
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:28 pm
by tigran
Well, good defense but not so much of an attacking threat... I wonder why...
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:51 pm
by tigran
Well that hurt, but not so much as it wasn't much of a surprise to see them give away again silly penalties in the last twenty minutes that cost them the game..
Little by little this team is showing character, but really not disciplined enough.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:44 pm
by morepork
Tigs, how fit are they do you reckon. Discipline just fell apart a bit in the last 20. Infringing wasn't as blatant as last week (Vahaamahina picking up the ball from offside right in front of the ref about 4 times, for example), so maybe they were just shagged?
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:11 pm
by tigran
Maybe, but it started after they made their replacements... and the replacements were quite the culprits too if I'm not mistaken..
the scrum felt apart after the replacements too... I think the coaching of the scots has been quite better than ours.. But we gave the game in the end with all these penalties I feel.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:49 pm
by tigran
There's something...
an awakening, but since ireland, that this third team was beating a couple of second before the end... Scotland they could have won it too..
This bunch of guys have what it takes, courage, grit, desire, solidarity... they can only go up now.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:47 am
by Adder
France still has to work on their Attack. That England team was there for some serious pumping.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:03 am
by tigran
Yes but something really smells good non.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:51 pm
by tigran
"Worsley saw that effect in France’s game against Ireland. “Novès apparently destroyed his relationship with the players, so it became a terrible environment. Jacques seems to have got them in good spirits. The emotion they put into that match against Ireland was huge. And they should have won as a result. It wasn’t really down to the gameplan or their technique, it was just the emotional effort they put in.”"
That's what I mean, it seems, they have found a new spark..
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:24 pm
by morepork
Never mind gameplan or technique. It's all emotion. Nice one.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:56 pm
by tigran
How come a bunch of guys thrown together for the first time in games against the second and the third team in the world have won one and should have won the other ?
Emotion my dear ...
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:19 pm
by morepork
Hey man, if you want to select oversize emotional dudes that lack a game plan, then get amongst it.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:23 pm
by tigran
I'm right in it
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:07 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
tigran wrote:How come a bunch of guys thrown together for the first time in games against the second and the third team in the world have won one and should have won the other ?
Emotion my dear ...
By no stretch of any imagination 'should' France have beaten Ireland, Tigs.
But for a moment of slackness on one hand and individual brilliance on the other, there wouldn't even have been a losing BP in it for you. Given his individual penalty count against us, Sébastien should have spent some time off the park. That might have kept you within arms reach without Teddy's dance to the line, but on the balance of every statistic the team that should have won, did win.
Change your 'should' to 'could' and I'll agree.
As someone who followed Ireland during the dreadful years when regardless of every other result beating England was the making or breaking of a season, I'd say that emotion can only carry you so far and ends up leaving a far greater depth of hollowness than the fleeting elation of one or two wins can fill.
France needs to get back to a system when it nurtures talent from within its own wonderfully boundless resources and springs them on a world of rugby that knows what is coming but can do feck all to stop it. I want to see the French back to their glory days where they beat all before them (Except their bogey team, Ireland)
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:01 am
by rowan
The final round in a fortnight will tell us much more about France. They'll need a win in Cardiff to finish in the top half of the table for just the second time since 2011. A loss there and they'll probably wind up second-to-bottom. That should really test their mettle, and we'll see if the Renaissance Francaise is for real or not.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:22 pm
by tigran
SerjeantWildgoose wrote:tigran wrote:How come a bunch of guys thrown together for the first time in games against the second and the third team in the world have won one and should have won the other ?
Emotion my dear ...
By no stretch of any imagination 'should' France have beaten Ireland, Tigs.
But for a moment of slackness on one hand and individual brilliance on the other, there wouldn't even have been a losing BP in it for you. Given his individual penalty count against us, Sébastien should have spent some time off the park. That might have kept you within arms reach without Teddy's dance to the line, but on the balance of every statistic the team that should have won, did win.
Change your 'should' to 'could' and I'll agree.
As someone who followed Ireland during the dreadful years when regardless of every other result beating England was the making or breaking of a season, I'd say that emotion can only carry you so far and ends up leaving a far greater depth of hollowness than the fleeting elation of one or two wins can fill.
France needs to get back to a system when it nurtures talent from within its own wonderfully boundless resources and springs them on a world of rugby that knows what is coming but can do feck all to stop it. I want to see the French back to their glory days where they beat all before them (Except their bogey team, Ireland)
Bah Sarje, one couple of seconds after the end of the game they were leading...so really, I don't think you can say they couldn't have won..
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:24 pm
by tigran
tigran wrote:SerjeantWildgoose wrote:tigran wrote:How come a bunch of guys thrown together for the first time in games against the second and the third team in the world have won one and should have won the other ?
Emotion my dear ...
By no stretch of any imagination 'should' France have beaten Ireland, Tigs.
But for a moment of slackness on one hand and individual brilliance on the other, there wouldn't even have been a losing BP in it for you. Given his individual penalty count against us, Sébastien should have spent some time off the park. That might have kept you within arms reach without Teddy's dance to the line, but on the balance of every statistic the team that should have won, did win.
Change your 'should' to 'could' and I'll agree.
As someone who followed Ireland during the dreadful years when regardless of every other result beating England was the making or breaking of a season, I'd say that emotion can only carry you so far and ends up leaving a far greater depth of hollowness than the fleeting elation of one or two wins can fill.
France needs to get back to a system when it nurtures talent from within its own wonderfully boundless resources and springs them on a world of rugby that knows what is coming but can do feck all to stop it. I want to see the French back to their glory days where they beat all before them (Except their bogey team, Ireland)
Bah Sarje, one couple of seconds after the end of the game they were leading...so really, I don't think you can say they shouldn't have won., but could is good too for this bunch of YOUNG talents.
Re: Les mighty frogs
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:31 am
by rowan
Anyone tipping the victoire Francaise this week? I think it'll go down to the wire and could make or break the season for Les Bleus. Granted, the title is out of reach, but second place would be their best finish in a long while, whereas defeat might see them wind up second bottom to Italy . . .