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Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:34 pm
by Zhivago

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:48 pm
by Banquo
..that they claim to be an independent news site?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 5:11 pm
by morepork
MLB: "We apprehended this here gentleman what was having a wank on some steps in a nice neighbourhood".


I wonder how many bored/drugged up housewives they get to nail each week?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:12 pm
by Mellsblue
Now, this is propaganda.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:34 pm
by morepork
Mellsblue wrote:Now, this is propaganda.

You jelly bro?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 8:42 pm
by Mellsblue
morepork wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Now, this is propaganda.

You jelly bro?
In English, please.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:48 am
by Zhivago
Mellsblue wrote:Now, this is propaganda.
Everything is propaganda

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 12:24 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote:
morepork wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:Now, this is propaganda.

You jelly bro?
In English, please.
Edgy street talk.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 12:58 pm
by Stones of granite
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
morepork wrote:

You jelly bro?
In English, please.
Edgy street talk.
Awesome.

For those of us who aren't "edgy street" folk, what the fuck does it mean?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:06 pm
by Banquo
Stones of granite wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: In English, please.
Edgy street talk.
Awesome.

For those of us who aren't "edgy street" folk, what the fuck does it mean?
No idea, until googled. It is either jealous, or mad.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:07 pm
by Digby
Is any sensible news site carrying this story or anything approaching this story?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:11 pm
by Banquo
Digby wrote:Is any sensible news site carrying this story or anything approaching this story?
Google swiftly reveals the story in the Metro, Mail and Evening Standard. Your call over 'sensible'.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:25 pm
by Stones of granite
Banquo wrote:
Digby wrote:Is any sensible news site carrying this story or anything approaching this story?
Google swiftly reveals the story in the Metro, Mail and Evening Standard. Your call over 'sensible'.
My google revealed the Sun and the DM. So, it's definitely legit...

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:39 pm
by morepork
Good Fred.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:57 pm
by Mellsblue
This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:31 pm
by Digby
So there's no actual story?

I had a feeling not clicking on the link would be every bit as informative

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:56 pm
by Zhivago
Mellsblue wrote:This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:08 pm
by Stones of granite
Zhivago wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.
What’s the Tory party involvement with this? It’s not clear from the article.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:15 pm
by Mellsblue
Zhivago wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.
The articles might be recent but the private bobby on the beat is old news.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:06 pm
by Sandydragon
Private security guards with no greater powers than you or I. Been a feature for years and will continue to be one.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:07 pm
by Sandydragon
Zhivago wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.
Do these security guards have the same legal powers as a constable?

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:42 pm
by Zhivago
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:This story has been banging around (public knowledge) for donkeys (a long time). However, whenever I’ve read about it, it’s not had quite so much apocalyptic hyperbole (see what I did there) attached to it.
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.
Do these security guards have the same legal powers as a constable?
"has the power to arrest the perpetrator and launch his or her own investigation. "
https://www.standard.co.uk/my-local-bob ... 07166.html

but one major difference is that they don't need to go via crown prosecution to prosecute... therefore there can be commercial incentive to prosecute rather than public interest.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:18 pm
by Stones of granite
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Nonsense, all the articles are recent.

And the point is the expansion of this private police force nationwide.

Everyone knows that Tories want a small state, it seems we can expect a minimalist police force with private forces syphoning more money off into shareholder profits.
Do these security guards have the same legal powers as a constable?
"has the power to arrest the perpetrator and launch his or her own investigation. "
https://www.standard.co.uk/my-local-bob ... 07166.html

but one major difference is that they don't need to go via crown prosecution to prosecute... therefore there can be commercial incentive to prosecute rather than public interest.
This appears to rely on the powers of Citizens Arrest and Private Prosecutions. Not straightforward in England and Wales, and highly problematic in Scotland.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:31 am
by Zhivago
Stones of granite wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Sandydragon wrote: Do these security guards have the same legal powers as a constable?
"has the power to arrest the perpetrator and launch his or her own investigation. "
https://www.standard.co.uk/my-local-bob ... 07166.html

but one major difference is that they don't need to go via crown prosecution to prosecute... therefore there can be commercial incentive to prosecute rather than public interest.
This appears to rely on the powers of Citizens Arrest and Private Prosecutions. Not straightforward in England and Wales, and highly problematic in Scotland.
"Appears" i.e. You're just guessing.

If we had real journalism in this country this would be investigated properly.

Re: Privatisation... Police

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:42 am
by Stones of granite
Zhivago wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
"has the power to arrest the perpetrator and launch his or her own investigation. "
https://www.standard.co.uk/my-local-bob ... 07166.html

but one major difference is that they don't need to go via crown prosecution to prosecute... therefore there can be commercial incentive to prosecute rather than public interest.
This appears to rely on the powers of Citizens Arrest and Private Prosecutions. Not straightforward in England and Wales, and highly problematic in Scotland.
"Appears" i.e. You're just guessing.

If we had real journalism in this country this would be investigated properly.
It says so in the article. You didn’t read it past the headline, did you?