New Concussion report
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League finally changing their tackle rules, and leapfrogging top-level union by going down to armpit height: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/ ... ssion-risk
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Since then, or course, attitudes have changed, and we know a lot more about concussion, so it's entirely possible that a better onfield check has been developed - but if so, it's passed me by.
My instinct of course, is that the whole point of an HIA is as an evidence based Assessment of a potential Head Injury; not to confirm / rule out the findings of a test that's known to be useless.
I'd need to see what the onfield check is - the HIA was introduced because onfield checks of the time were simply terrible.“Players will continue to wear the iMGs this weekend but will not be required to immediately leave the field for an HIA when their mouthguard triggers an alert to pitch-side doctors,” a statement read.
“Instead, players will be checked by an on-field doctor after a trigger alert has been received. If the doctor has any concerns the player will then leave the field for an HIA.
“If the player passes an on-field check, they will still be subject to a full HIA, either at half-time or full-time.”
Since then, or course, attitudes have changed, and we know a lot more about concussion, so it's entirely possible that a better onfield check has been developed - but if so, it's passed me by.
My instinct of course, is that the whole point of an HIA is as an evidence based Assessment of a potential Head Injury; not to confirm / rule out the findings of a test that's known to be useless.
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Zander Fagerson and Scotland complained about his gumshield-related HIA at the weekend, but I noted in the m-b-m that, as soon as he came back on, he carried the ball with his head down like a charging ram and nutted Underhill who was trying to tackle him, which made me lose sympathy for him complaining about being checked for head injuries. Although weirdly, that one didn't trigger the gumshield (or he'd switched his status to refusing to use it, which they can do).Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:51 am https://www.planetrugby.com/news/super- ... -criticismI'd need to see what the onfield check is - the HIA was introduced because onfield checks of the time were simply terrible.“Players will continue to wear the iMGs this weekend but will not be required to immediately leave the field for an HIA when their mouthguard triggers an alert to pitch-side doctors,” a statement read.
“Instead, players will be checked by an on-field doctor after a trigger alert has been received. If the doctor has any concerns the player will then leave the field for an HIA.
“If the player passes an on-field check, they will still be subject to a full HIA, either at half-time or full-time.”
Since then, or course, attitudes have changed, and we know a lot more about concussion, so it's entirely possible that a better onfield check has been developed - but if so, it's passed me by.
My instinct of course, is that the whole point of an HIA is as an evidence based Assessment of a potential Head Injury; not to confirm / rule out the findings of a test that's known to be useless.
The sooner World Rugby bring in the community level laws of "No tackles above the sternum, no leading with your head into contact" into the professional game, the better. Need one unified set of laws.
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Real-time Telemedicine in the middle of a fight...Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:51 am https://www.planetrugby.com/news/super- ... -criticismI'd need to see what the onfield check is - the HIA was introduced because onfield checks of the time were simply terrible.“Players will continue to wear the iMGs this weekend but will not be required to immediately leave the field for an HIA when their mouthguard triggers an alert to pitch-side doctors,” a statement read.
“Instead, players will be checked by an on-field doctor after a trigger alert has been received. If the doctor has any concerns the player will then leave the field for an HIA.
“If the player passes an on-field check, they will still be subject to a full HIA, either at half-time or full-time.”
Since then, or course, attitudes have changed, and we know a lot more about concussion, so it's entirely possible that a better onfield check has been developed - but if so, it's passed me by.
My instinct of course, is that the whole point of an HIA is as an evidence based Assessment of a potential Head Injury; not to confirm / rule out the findings of a test that's known to be useless.
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Don't forget, this is Brexit Britain - your 1 minute phone consultation with a GP who can't access your medical notes, is a 4 week wait away.
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More confusion as to which (no pun intended) board this sort of thing should be posted on.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... 0lknlv2ylo
This is to be taken with the usual oversized pinch of salt about medical claims made by anyone selling a product, but this is interesting and I'm curious to see the results of the research. It seems to make a basic sense to my amateur brain - one of the major problems is swelling in the brain, icing reduces swelling, so therefore cooling the head should reduce swelling? Who knows whether it'll have a noticeable effect in real life though.
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This is to be taken with the usual oversized pinch of salt about medical claims made by anyone selling a product, but this is interesting and I'm curious to see the results of the research. It seems to make a basic sense to my amateur brain - one of the major problems is swelling in the brain, icing reduces swelling, so therefore cooling the head should reduce swelling? Who knows whether it'll have a noticeable effect in real life though.
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FTR - the use of ice to reduce swelling is very controversial amongst those in the know (short term gains vs longer term harms - I have opinions, but this isn't really the place).
Either way, I await the results of the research with interest.
Either way, I await the results of the research with interest.
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I would be interested in those opinions, as I know precious little about the matter.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:05 pm FTR - the use of ice to reduce swelling is very controversial amongst those in the know (short term gains vs longer term harms - I have opinions, but this isn't really the place).
Either way, I await the results of the research with interest.
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I've kept this as short as I realistically can - which isn't very.
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I thought the head cooling thing was more for ischemic episodes, particularly for newborn babies.