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Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:26 pm
by Tuco Ramirez
1 Carre
2 Owens
3 Francis
4 Beard
5 Tshiunza
6 Morgan
7 Reffell
8 Faletau
9 Williams
10 Williams
11 North
12 Hawkins
13 Tompkins
14 Adams
15 Williams

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:31 pm
by Buggaluggs
Don't think I'd drop Dyer. But yeah, need to start looking to the future.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:34 pm
by Sandydragon
I’d swap North for Dyer. Did nothing wrong whereas North made a lot of mistakes.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:34 pm
by UKHamlet
I'd drop North for Dyer/LRZ and start Webb.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:43 pm
by Sandydragon
If LRZ is fit then he has to be back in the team.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm
by Tuco Ramirez
Dyer not got a rugby brain

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:20 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm Dyer not got a rugby brain
He had all the pace needed but butchered that try in the first half.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
by pompey-zebra
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:20 pm
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm Dyer not got a rugby brain
He had all the pace needed but butchered that try in the first half.
To be fair to Dyer, he's not the only.one who butchered tries.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:37 pm
by Sandydragon
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm Dyer not got a rugby brain
Not as lethal as LRZ but I’d still pick him over North who tends to be anonymous on the wing.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:43 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:20 pm
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:06 pm Dyer not got a rugby brain
He had all the pace needed but butchered that try in the first half.
To be fair to Dyer, he's not the only.one who butchered tries.
True but I think Dyer's was the most obvious butchery in the match. Like if a winger with his pace doesn't know what to do to finish that one off....? Real lack of killer instinct.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:52 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
My team for Scotland:

Thomas
Owens
Francis
Beard
AWJ
Morgan
Reffell
Faletau
Webb
Owen Williams
Adams
Keiran Williams
North
LRZ/Dyer
Liam Williams

Bench: Carre, Lewis, Baldwin, Tshiunza, Tipuric, Webb, Patchell, Hawkins

Tough call over Tips/Reffell. My thinking is (perhaps) that Reffell might be better suited to stealing ball earlier in the match, Tips better at working his rugby magic later in the game.

North wasn't great but we have limited options for 13. Hopefully it was a bad game.

Hopefully Jac will also have a better game next time.

I've yet to be impressed with Dafydd Jenkins, so Tshiunza is in for 2nd row cover (but might get used at 6).

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:18 pm
by Ross. S
AWJ wont play against Scotland after failing a HIA

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:09 pm
by pompey-zebra
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:43 pm
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:20 pm
He had all the pace needed but butchered that try in the first half.
To be fair to Dyer, he's not the only.one who butchered tries.
True but I think Dyer's was the most obvious butchery in the match. Like if a winger with his pace doesn't know what to do to finish that one off....? Real lack of killer instinct.
Again I'd say singling out a young winger with the least experience in the squad is harsh..there were plenty of orher opportunities to score which weren't taken. Biggar for example.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:09 pm
by pompey-zebra
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:43 pm
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:20 pm
He had all the pace needed but butchered that try in the first half.
To be fair to Dyer, he's not the only.one who butchered tries.
True but I think Dyer's was the most obvious butchery in the match. Like if a winger with his pace doesn't know what to do to finish that one off....? Real lack of killer instinct.
Again I'd say singling out a young winger with the least experience in the squad is harsh..there were plenty of orher opportunities to score which weren't taken. Biggar for example.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:38 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:09 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:43 pm
pompey-zebra wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:36 pm
To be fair to Dyer, he's not the only.one who butchered tries.
True but I think Dyer's was the most obvious butchery in the match. Like if a winger with his pace doesn't know what to do to finish that one off....? Real lack of killer instinct.
Again I'd say singling out a young winger with the least experience in the squad is harsh..there were plenty of orher opportunities to score which weren't taken. Biggar for example.
Maybe. Well I wouldn't drop him, despite that disappointing moment he's better than any other fit winger in the squad.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:34 pm
by Sandydragon
Ross. S wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:18 pm AWJ wont play against Scotland after failing a HIA
Shame but an opportunity for someone else to stand up.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:03 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Sandydragon wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:34 pm
Ross. S wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:18 pm AWJ wont play against Scotland after failing a HIA
Shame but an opportunity for someone else to stand up.
Mustn't forget Rhys Davies, but I expect Dafydd Jenkins will get a start.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 8:48 am
by Sandydragon
We need to hope the Scots mentally switch off or it could another long afternoon. Englands defence was decidedly poor in places yesterday, but credit to Scotland for a good win at Twickenham.

This is actually the game where Tips could make a real difference. Although I’d still be tempted to start Reffel. I do think this will be a game played at high tempo so we need a pack that can cover the ground.

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:03 am
by MrK
Williams, Dyer, North, Williams, Adams, Williams, Williams
Carre, Owens, Lewis, Beard, Davies, Morgan, Reffel, Faletau

Roberts, Thomas, Brown, Tshiunza, Wainwright, Webb, Hawkins, Grady

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:14 am
by pompey-zebra
MrK wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:03 am Williams, Dyer, North, Williams, Adams, Williams, Williams
Carre, Owens, Lewis, Beard, Davies, Morgan, Reffel, Faletau

Roberts, Thomas, Brown, Tshiunza, Wainwright, Webb, Hawkins, Grady
Any other Williams we can get in before Saturday?

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:56 am
by Tuco Ramirez
Hawkins was good…. See some of you are throwing him under the bus??

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:01 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:56 am Hawkins was good…. See some of you are throwing him under the bus??
Do you think he's been playing better than Keiran Williams for the Ospreys?

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:04 am
by Son of Mathonwy
MrK wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:03 am Williams, Dyer, North, Williams, Adams, Williams, Williams
Carre, Owens, Lewis, Beard, Davies, Morgan, Reffel, Faletau

Roberts, Thomas, Brown, Tshiunza, Wainwright, Webb, Hawkins, Grady
Love it - it's like an obscure language where the same word can have different meanings depending on its position in the sentence. :)

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:47 am
by Tuco Ramirez
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:01 am
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:56 am Hawkins was good…. See some of you are throwing him under the bus??
Do you think he's been playing better than Keiran Williams for the Ospreys?

I think KW is more prone to a mistake and would get smashed at test level. (Feel free to bookmark)

Re: Team for Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:11 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:47 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:01 am
Tuco Ramirez wrote: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:56 am Hawkins was good…. See some of you are throwing him under the bus??
Do you think he's been playing better than Keiran Williams for the Ospreys?
I think KW is more prone to a mistake and would get smashed at test level. (Feel free to bookmark)
For the KW of last season I might agree but not any more. I'm not saying Hawkins is bad, far from it, but at this moment I think Williams would be more effective. i think Hawkins is excellent for his age rather than plain excellent (which he may well be one day). But if Williams wasn't fit I'd be happy with Hawkins.

I have made a note of your prediction for later use ;) .