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What are you suggesting here?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:19 pm I'm not a fan of the Saracens shenanigans on the pitch and I think he'd be a far better and more likeable player if he cut out all the hollering and dickery. So it's not just opposition fans who dislike Mr Shouty.
However, do we need to do the thing of pretending an African-origin name is weird, and confusing it with something else? Feels like that's its own kind of shittiness.
Puja
That it's a common thing for someone with an African name to be faced with people acting like it's incomprehensible and that it's a funny joke to mispronounce it. I will note that I am absolutely not accusing anyone of deliberate bigotry, as it's probable that Tuco wasn't aware this was even a thing, but it is a joke which (accidentally) plays into some fairly established racist tropes and thus probably better that we don't do it, given that we're all nice people and the joke of, "Weird name, I'll pretend I confuse it with Mario" probably hasn't got enough humour in it to be worth defending.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:22 pmWhat are you suggesting here?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:19 pm I'm not a fan of the Saracens shenanigans on the pitch and I think he'd be a far better and more likeable player if he cut out all the hollering and dickery. So it's not just opposition fans who dislike Mr Shouty.
However, do we need to do the thing of pretending an African-origin name is weird, and confusing it with something else? Feels like that's its own kind of shittiness.
Puja
Not heard of auto correct? Or genuine mistake?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:31 pmThat it's a common thing for someone with an African name to be faced with people acting like it's incomprehensible and that it's a funny joke to mispronounce it. I will note that I am absolutely not accusing anyone of deliberate bigotry, as it's probable that Tuco wasn't aware this was even a thing, but it is a joke which (accidentally) plays into some fairly established racist tropes and thus probably better that we don't do it, given that we're all nice people and the joke of, "Weird name, I'll pretend I confuse it with Mario" probably hasn't got enough humour in it to be worth defending.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:22 pmWhat are you suggesting here?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:19 pm I'm not a fan of the Saracens shenanigans on the pitch and I think he'd be a far better and more likeable player if he cut out all the hollering and dickery. So it's not just opposition fans who dislike Mr Shouty.
However, do we need to do the thing of pretending an African-origin name is weird, and confusing it with something else? Feels like that's its own kind of shittiness.
Puja
Puja
So your assumption is that Tuco is being "racist" rather than perhaps auto correct changing maro to Mario. Even typing this changed Tuco to "tyco" and " tuck" before I corrected it.Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:31 pmThat it's a common thing for someone with an African name to be faced with people acting like it's incomprehensible and that it's a funny joke to mispronounce it. I will note that I am absolutely not accusing anyone of deliberate bigotry, as it's probable that Tuco wasn't aware this was even a thing, but it is a joke which (accidentally) plays into some fairly established racist tropes and thus probably better that we don't do it, given that we're all nice people and the joke of, "Weird name, I'll pretend I confuse it with Mario" probably hasn't got enough humour in it to be worth defending.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:22 pmWhat are you suggesting here?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:19 pm I'm not a fan of the Saracens shenanigans on the pitch and I think he'd be a far better and more likeable player if he cut out all the hollering and dickery. So it's not just opposition fans who dislike Mr Shouty.
However, do we need to do the thing of pretending an African-origin name is weird, and confusing it with something else? Feels like that's its own kind of shittiness.
Puja
Puja
I have seen it used as a joke elsewhere on the internet, so I assumed it was being used as a joke here. If it's an autocorrect error or a slip of the keys, then my absolute apologies, but I'm still happy I raised it because I'm sure Tuco would prefer to know and fix it, whether it was unintentional typing or unawareness of the hard-worn trope of mocking black people's names.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:34 pmNot heard of auto correct? Or genuine mistake?Puja wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:31 pmThat it's a common thing for someone with an African name to be faced with people acting like it's incomprehensible and that it's a funny joke to mispronounce it. I will note that I am absolutely not accusing anyone of deliberate bigotry, as it's probable that Tuco wasn't aware this was even a thing, but it is a joke which (accidentally) plays into some fairly established racist tropes and thus probably better that we don't do it, given that we're all nice people and the joke of, "Weird name, I'll pretend I confuse it with Mario" probably hasn't got enough humour in it to be worth defending.
Puja