The future's bright, so give us a Kiss

[mcshinnertheligind]

Larmour has a bright future ahead of him

[mcshinnertheligind]

Larmour has a bright future ahead of him

[BBD]

he has pace, a step of both feet and a name with comedic potential, the lad will go far

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Do I detect the faintest whiff of schadenfreude?

[mcshinnertheligind]

Well he's no Dempsey

[SerjeantWildgoose]

There are shades of Anto.

[Spiffy]

Well he's no Dempsey

Dempsey is one of the most underrated players in the history of Irish rugby. 82 caps, 19 tries, fourth on the try-scoring list, a rock under the high ball, a great defender and pacy. I'd have him well ahead of Kearney as an international FB any day.

[Spiffy]

So any ideas on whom Ulster will be going after? I just noticed an article on the Beeb about them looking to nab Stephen Donald or Quade Cooper.

The money seems to be on Matt Giteau (35). I wouldn't bother with any of them. Yesterday's men. Would rather stick with former Ireland U20s Jonny McPhillips and give him some significant game time starting right now.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Here's my take.

Munster have Ian Keatley, JJ and Bill Johnson fit, with Tyler Blyendal to come back. All are Irish qualified. How is Nucifora going to allow Ulster to bring in a SH has-been (Frankly none of them are up to the mark to carry off a whole season in the 10 jersey for Ulster) when there are IQ stand-offs in Ireland that aren't getting game time?

I know he had a mare up in Belfast on New Years Day, but I can see JJ heading north long before any of those 3.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Well he's no Dempsey

Dempsey is one of the most underrated players in the history of Irish rugby. 82 caps, 19 tries, fourth on the try-scoring list, a rock under the high ball, a great defender and pacy. I'd have him well ahead of Kearney as an international FB any day.

Ah those rose-tinted spectacles of nostalgia for the heady days when we were racking up the triple crowns. Girve was something special on his day, but he had his share of fairly crap outings. I'd put him and Kearney pretty much on a par and if pushed would have Rob slightly ahead - his selection for 2 Lions tours vs Girvans 0 would suggest that I am in good company.

Girve's strike rate of slightly less than a try every 4 caps is better than Rob's and about equal to Geordan Murphy's, which is remarkable given that their international careers virtually ran hand in hand and coincided with 6 of the other 10 top Irish try scorers (BOD, Hickie, Tommy, Shaggy, Trimble and ROG)! They would appear to have been part of a golden era in which Ireland was a try-scoring factory.

It might not be much, but I would say that had it not been for Rob Kearney on that day in Chicago, Ireland would not have beaten the All Blacks. I can't think of a game - even Twickenham in 2004, where despite him scoring the try - you could say the same of Girve.

[BBD]

if they like a curry chip it is a certainty

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I think the IRFU are starting to take more seriously the spreading of the talent pool. Cooney's move has proven successful for the province and for Cooney, who is now making a credible shout to get the bench spot ahead of Marmion and McGrath. Jordi Murphy is heading north next season and if you look at Munster's senior squad there are nearly as many products of the Leinster academy in there as our own.

I think the promise of a regular start is what drives these lads and what with the electric and Tarmac, most of them can be home from Belfast in under 3 days.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

if they like a curry chip it is a certainty

I think JJ's blood group is curry chip.

[Spiffy]

Well he's no Dempsey

Dempsey is one of the most underrated players in the history of Irish rugby. 82 caps, 19 tries, fourth on the try-scoring list, a rock under the high ball, a great defender and pacy. I'd have him well ahead of Kearney as an international FB any day.

Ah those rose-tinted spectacles of nostalgia for the heady days when we were racking up the triple crowns. Girve was something special on his day, but he had his share of fairly crap outings. I'd put him and Kearney pretty much on a par and if pushed would have Rob slightly ahead - his selection for 2 Lions tours vs Girvans 0 would suggest that I am in good company.

Girve's strike rate of slightly less than a try every 4 caps is better than Rob's and about equal to Geordan Murphy's, which is remarkable given that their international careers virtually ran hand in hand and coincided with 6 of the other 10 top Irish try scorers (BOD, Hickie, Tommy, Shaggy, Trimble and ROG)! They would appear to have been part of a golden era in which Ireland was a try-scoring factory.

It might not be much, but I would say that had it not been for Rob Kearney on that day in Chicago, Ireland would not have beaten the All Blacks. I can't think of a game - even Twickenham in 2004, where despite him scoring the try - you could say the same of Girve.

Eh??? A dyed-in-the-wool traditional Tornip defending an overrated, useless and past-it D4 Jackeen.
WTF is leaching into the the bog water these days?
As for Chicago - mandear,sure didn't the boul Bobbert himself miss two tackles entirely that led to AB tries.
But he looks tough, mind, especially when he's not had a shave.

[mcshinnertheligind]

Tommy to retire at end of season.

[hugh_woatmeigh]

Grim reading.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42874775

[BBD]

Guilty or innocent its a pretty awful situation all round

[BBD]

Good win tonight

5 points to nil against the side above you cant be bad, even though it was closer in reality than the scoreboard suggests

[SerjeantWildgoose]

Only watched the first half, in which the opposite was true, with the scoreboard failing to reflect Ulster's dominance. Stockdale's chin is a class apart.

Rory gave away a few daft penalties, although I struggled to see exactly what it was Nige was pinging him for even with the benefit of the replays. He also chucked in a few dodgy bungs to the line. McCloskey seemed out of sorts and the half backs were having a bit of a mixed bag.

On the positive side, Cave celebrated becoming Ulsters 3rd highest capped player by having a cracker, Piutau had another good game (They're going to miss him; and fuck the English clubs and their bottomless pockets) as did Henderson and Deysel - and O'Toole had an excellent senior debut.

While mathematically do-able, I can't see Ulster making up the 8-point gap on Edinburgh for the play-offs even with the game in hand. Edinburgh host Scarlets the week before their Champions Cup semi-final and Glasgow on the last weekend. One win probably gets them Champions Cup rugby next season and into the play-offs.

Ulster have Ospreys and Glasgow at home and a trip to Limerick to finish off the regular season - they will probably need to win all three (Two bonus point wins and a draw might be enough). I think Ospreys have left themselves too much to do but are finishing strongly and knocked the snot out of Connacht last night. They will not be easy to beat next weekend. Glasgow are way ahead of the field but they know how to win this thing and I can't see them taking their foot off the pedal, though they may feel less strongly about the rest of the chasing pack from Pool 2 than they do about their Jockistani rivals. By the time Ulster get to Thomond Park, we will be either hacked off to feck for losing in Bordeaux or focused on a European final and playing with our tails up - either way it is likely to be in front of a packed and vocal 16th man.

[SerjeantWildgoose]

So the maths say that Ulster need to win in Limerick and Embra lose at home to the Weege for Ulster to qualify by right. I think it more probable they’ll host Hairspreys in the play off but ye never know. Failing to qualify for champions cup rugby would put the cow-pat-cap on a shitty year.

I almost feel sorry for the hoores, but then I remember Spiff is one of ‘em.

[Spiffy]

So the maths say that Ulster need to win in Limerick and Embra lose at home to the Weege for Ulster to qualify by right. I think it more probable they’ll host Hairspreys in the play off but ye never know. Failing to qualify for champions cup rugby would put the cow-pat-cap on a shitty year.

I almost feel sorry for the hoores, but then I remember Spiff is one of ‘em.

I do hope the Tornips will look deeply into their souls, have the good grace to do the only right and honourable thing here, and throw this game for the sake of Irish rugby. You know we would do the same for them. United we stand!

[BBD]

Yeah, cos we are known far and wide for doing favours for that bunch of heathens

[Peat]

Yeah, cos we are known far and wide for doing favours for that bunch of heathens

Nearly did. Nearly might be a good motto for Ulster Rugby.


Anyway, Dan McFarland's been announced as the new Ulster Rugby head coach, which would be a fantastic appointment for the forwards but unsure for everyone else. Lot of snarling in the unhappy place about how there's no date announced - not unreasonable, but bit disheartening to see so many fans assume everything's a mistake from the beginning. Can't be doing with that sort of fandom.

In any case, its all moot until someone puts together an Ulster pack where 6 of the starting 8 wouldn't be out of place in international rugby.

[BBD]

very true Peat, after Best & Henderson you are reaching to find anyone else

[SerjeantWildgoose]

I think there's loads to be positive about Ulster R*gby looking forward to next season. With all of them protestors burning their season tickets, the queue for the chip van will be a bit shorter for a start.