Warm up games

[MrK]

So, sauces suggest wales going all out on Sunday

Williams, North, Davies, Parkes, Adams, Anscombe, Davies
Smith, OWens, Francis, AWJ, Beard, Wainwright, Tips, Moriaty

Dee, Wyn Jones, Lewis, Bradley, Shingler, Williams, Biggar, Watkins

He also said Shingler is looking on fire...

Could of course be all bollocks, but thought Id start a thread anyway

[Son of Mathonwy]

Got to go strong - yeah, it's a warm-up, but it's England at home.

I still remember 2007...

[Graigwen]

I think we should play our second and third choices to give them experience. And lose by thirty points to feed English delusions....


(I see the English Board have got nine pages on this game already!)

[Graigwen]

WALES TEAM TO FACE ENGLAND, SATURDAY AUGUST 11 (KO 14.00 SKY SPORTS):

15. Liam Williams (Saracens) (55 Caps)
14. George North (Ospreys) (83 Caps)
13. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets) (73 Caps)
12. Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets) (15 Caps)
11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues) (10 Caps)
10. Gareth Anscombe (Ospreys) (26 Caps)
9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (41 Caps)
1. Nicky Smith (Ospreys) (28 Caps)
2. Ken Owens (Scarlets) (64 Caps)
3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (40 Caps)
4. Adam Beard (Ospreys) (13 Caps)
5. Alun Wyn Jones (C) (Ospreys) (125 Caps)
6. Aaron Wainwright (Dragons) (8 Caps)
7. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (64 Caps)
8. Ross Moriarty (Dragons) (31 Caps)

Replacements:

16. Elliot Dee (Dragons) (18 Caps)
17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (12 Caps)
18. Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues) (12 Caps)
19. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (32 Caps)
20. Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (17 Caps)
21. Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues) (7 Caps)
22. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints) (70 Caps)
23. Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (13 Caps)

[Graigwen]

We are in real trouble here. The team announcement above was copied from the WRU site. They think the game is on Saturday not Sunday!!!

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[Puja]

We are in real trouble here. The team announcement above was copied from the WRU site. They think the game is on Saturday not Sunday!!!

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To be fair, if you turn up on Saturday, you'd probably win that game fairly easily. 1-0 Gatland.

Puja

[Graigwen]

We are in real trouble here. The team announcement above was copied from the WRU site. They think the game is on Saturday not Sunday!!!

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To be fair, if you turn up on Saturday, you'd probably win that game fairly easily. 1-0 Gatland.

Puja

The WRU site was corrected by 11.28.

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[Puja]

Your opposition, folks.

15 Elliot Daly (Saracens)
14 Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby)
13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
12 Piers Francis (Northampton Saints)
11 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers) C
9 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby) VC

1 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
3 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
4 Joe Launchbury (Wasps)
5 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)
6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby) VC
8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Replacements:
16 Jack Singleton (Saracens)
17 Joe Marler (Harlequins)
18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs)
19 George Kruis (Saracens)
20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints)
21 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
22 Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
23 Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby)

Feels a bit like the England vs France tests pre the 2003 RWC. First you play your firsts against our rotation, then the reverse next week - that way the reserves get a massive test to see if they're up to it and the firsts get a nice morale-boosting victory.

Of course, the latter depends if you can beat our reserves, which hasn't always been the case in a summer test.

Puja

[Numbers]

Your opposition, folks.

15 Elliot Daly (Saracens)
14 Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby)
13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
12 Piers Francis (Northampton Saints)
11 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers) C
9 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby) VC

1 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
3 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
4 Joe Launchbury (Wasps)
5 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)
6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby) VC
8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Replacements:
16 Jack Singleton (Saracens)
17 Joe Marler (Harlequins)
18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs)
19 George Kruis (Saracens)
20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints)
21 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
22 Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
23 Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby)

Feels a bit like the England vs France tests pre the 2003 RWC. First you play your firsts against our rotation, then the reverse next week - that way the reserves get a massive test to see if they're up to it and the firsts get a nice morale-boosting victory.

Of course, the latter depends if you can beat our reserves, which hasn't always been the case in a summer test.

Puja

That seems to be it, play your possibles in the home matches and the probables in the away games. I can't see England winning this match.

[MrK]

So, sauces suggest wales going all out on Sunday

Williams, North, Davies, Parkes, Adams, Anscombe, Davies
Smith, OWens, Francis, AWJ, Beard, Wainwright, Tips, Moriaty

Dee, Wyn Jones, Lewis, Bradley, Shingler, Williams, Biggar, Watkins

He also said Shingler is looking on fire...

Could of course be all bollocks, but thought Id start a thread anyway

I'll have a word..he got Ball wrong !

[normanski]

Your opposition, folks.

15 Elliot Daly (Saracens)
14 Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby)
13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
12 Piers Francis (Northampton Saints)
11 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers) C
9 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby) VC

1 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
3 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
4 Joe Launchbury (Wasps)
5 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby)
6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks)
7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby) VC
8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Replacements:
16 Jack Singleton (Saracens)
17 Joe Marler (Harlequins)
18 Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs)
19 George Kruis (Saracens)
20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints)
21 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
22 Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
23 Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby)

Feels a bit like the England vs France tests pre the 2003 RWC. First you play your firsts against our rotation, then the reverse next week - that way the reserves get a massive test to see if they're up to it and the firsts get a nice morale-boosting victory.

Of course, the latter depends if you can beat our reserves, which hasn't always been the case in a summer test.

Puja

That seems to be it, play your possibles in the home matches and the probables in the away games. I can't see England winning this match.

Eddie Jones said this would probably happen last week on TMS at Edgbaston.

If playing an experimental England side gives us a convincing win to start the warm ups then I’m all for it.

[Son of Mathonwy]

So, sauces suggest wales going all out on Sunday

Williams, North, Davies, Parkes, Adams, Anscombe, Davies
Smith, OWens, Francis, AWJ, Beard, Wainwright, Tips, Moriaty

Dee, Wyn Jones, Lewis, Bradley, Shingler, Williams, Biggar, Watkins

He also said Shingler is looking on fire...

Could of course be all bollocks, but thought Id start a thread anyway

I'll have a word..he got Ball wrong !

Quite so, we only accept 100% accuracy here.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Your opposition, folks.

Feels a bit like the England vs France tests pre the 2003 RWC. First you play your firsts against our rotation, then the reverse next week - that way the reserves get a massive test to see if they're up to it and the firsts get a nice morale-boosting victory.

Of course, the latter depends if you can beat our reserves, which hasn't always been the case in a summer test.

Puja

That seems to be it, play your possibles in the home matches and the probables in the away games. I can't see England winning this match.

Eddie Jones said this would probably happen last week on TMS at Edgbaston.

If playing an experimental England side gives us a convincing win to start the warm ups then I’m all for it.

I was (and am) against playing such a tough series of matches as a warm up. However, now that they are happening I think we should try to win them, even if that means not experimenting as much as we'd like, ideally. We should pick a strong team each time with at most 3 experimental selections across the XV.

Although I can see the logic in giving our opposition the false hopes that would come with a win, I think it's better to do our damnedest to keep up our winning streak.

[Puja]

That seems to be it, play your possibles in the home matches and the probables in the away games. I can't see England winning this match.

Eddie Jones said this would probably happen last week on TMS at Edgbaston.

If playing an experimental England side gives us a convincing win to start the warm ups then I’m all for it.

I was (and am) against playing such a tough series of matches as a warm up. However, now that they are happening I think we should try to win them, even if that means not experimenting as much as we'd like, ideally. We should pick a strong team each time with at most 3 experimental selections across the XV.

Although I can see the logic in giving our opposition the false hopes that would come with a win, I think it's better to do our damnedest to keep up our winning streak.

Is it wise to play the 1st XV four weeks in a row? Feels a bit of a gamble to me.

Puja

[Son of Mathonwy]

Eddie Jones said this would probably happen last week on TMS at Edgbaston.

If playing an experimental England side gives us a convincing win to start the warm ups then I’m all for it.

I was (and am) against playing such a tough series of matches as a warm up. However, now that they are happening I think we should try to win them, even if that means not experimenting as much as we'd like, ideally. We should pick a strong team each time with at most 3 experimental selections across the XV.

Although I can see the logic in giving our opposition the false hopes that would come with a win, I think it's better to do our damnedest to keep up our winning streak.

Is it wise to play the 1st XV four weeks in a row? Feels a bit of a gamble to me.

Puja

I'm not saying play exactly the same XV every time, there is room for a little rotation. Just don't pick the sort of team we'd use to play Italy. (Unless, of course, the coaches come to an understanding that they'll both pick experimental teams.)

[PoolerSaint]

Wales always start campaigns painfully slowly (well usually), so I'm not expecting a great performance. How much actual rugby will they have been doing while getting absolutely beasted by Gats & co.
That'll be a leveller also by the fact that English depth is so good that this side is very, very strong.
Guys like Launchbury, Ewels, Genge etc would be first choice for most test sides.
Curry and Underhill in tandem either side of Billy Vunipola is a scary thought.
I'm expecting a tight England win to be honest. Still think Wales will be a tough nut at the RWC but it'll take a few weeks to blow the cobwebs away.

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[Puja]

In case you haven't seen, we've made three changes due to "injury" (jury out on actually injured, or Eddie f*cking about) - Ludlam in for Underhill, Joseph in for Slade, Cokanasiga in for McConnochie. The former's a weakening, the latter two make us stronger, IMO.

Puja

[PoolerSaint]

Yeah, I agree your backline is far stronger with those two additions.
Can't say I've seen much of Ludlam apart from some brief clips on highlight programs.


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[Sandydragon]

Well not such a great start.

2 mistakes by Moriarty.

[Sandydragon]

Gareth Davies not operating at 100% either, couple of bad mistakes as well.

[Sandydragon]

England continue to keep it tight and score a second try.

14-0 after 14 minutes.

[Hooky]

Ffs Wales. This is going to be embarrassing against an England second string, with our first XV. Nothing changes. Joke that we’re number 1.

[Sandydragon]

More mistakes surrender possession in the England half.

We’re making it too easy for England.

[Hooky]

This type of shit is the reason we will not win the World Cup. Bunch of dopey cnuts

[Sandydragon]

Beautiful solo try by Gareth Davies which is converted.

14-7.