COVID19

[morepork]

Fair enough.

[Galfon]

They must have seen this coming, given how thngs have moved on elsewhere.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63771109

[Mellsblue]

[Which Tyler]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... to-isolate

Travellers from China who test positive in UK for Covid will not need to isolate

Transport secretary says infection data collected at airport ‘for surveillance purposes’

People arriving in the UK from China will not be required to self-isolate if they test positive for Covid-19, the transport secretary has said.

Covid cases in China continue to surge after Beijing’s abrupt decision to end most of its severe pandemic restrictions.

Just what our health service needs right now!

[Which Tyler]

[morepork]

Oh look. Controlled clinical trials lead to a drug that is effective against a known pathogen. What a surprise. That's not what my social media angry search algorithm told me to expect. Let's make a podcast and flog colloidal silver.

[Puja]

Oh look. Controlled clinical trials lead to a drug that is effective against a known pathogen. What a surprise. That's not what my social media angry search algorithm told me to expect. Let's make a podcast and flog colloidal silver.

On a related tangent, have you come across the conspiracy theory about "15 minute cities" yet? I heard about it today and it's absolutely wild - people are raving and spewing hate about a sociological idea that a city should be laid out so that every house has certain amenities within a 15 minute walk or cycle, to reduce driving and create a more people-centric city, because they've managed to convince themselves that this is the first part of a plan where we're all going to be locked inside our 15 minute zones because the government's looking to corral and separate us for... some reason.

Just utterly bizarre.

Puja

[morepork]

Climate is the next front on the Crazy War. Any government supported, or mandated, strategies to mitigate more frequent severe weather events and droughts and fires and shit will be violently opposed as some affront to personal freedom. It's a self-perpetuating clusterfuck of epic proportions and we are pretty much going to get rogered hard by it.

[Sandydragon]

Oh look. Controlled clinical trials lead to a drug that is effective against a known pathogen. What a surprise. That's not what my social media angry search algorithm told me to expect. Let's make a podcast and flog colloidal silver.

On a related tangent, have you come across the conspiracy theory about "15 minute cities" yet? I heard about it today and it's absolutely wild - people are raving and spewing hate about a sociological idea that a city should be laid out so that every house has certain amenities within a 15 minute walk or cycle, to reduce driving and create a more people-centric city, because they've managed to convince themselves that this is the first part of a plan where we're all going to be locked inside our 15 minute zones because the government's looking to corral and separate us for... some reason.

Just utterly bizarre.

Puja

Bit like King Charles’ eco towns. Sadly to retrofit into a city would be very expensive and to us not likely to happen but no reason why we shouldn’t be doing this for new towns and other developments.

[Which Tyler]

No wonder Sunak wants maths taught at school for longer, if he was party to these discussions.
Not to mention that he's trying to fight his actual science advisors with a misquote from the financial times.
ETA: and well done Dom Cummings for putting on his idiot-explaining pants, to actually explain things in (hopefully) Boris-friendly bites.

[Which Tyler]

[morepork]

Science. It's real bitches.

[morepork]

Measles making a comeback now. Time to pull out that dusty old autism card and get your rage on.

[Which Tyler]

[Son of Mathonwy]

Incredible fake news from the Telegraph. As front page 'news' they dig up a non peer-reviewed working paper from 2022, written by three economists/political scientists which uses a dubious definition of lockdown and some impressive cherry-picking:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... udy-finds/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... -covid-19/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/97056

It's almost as if they have an an anti-lockdown agenda and a desire to distract attention from the covid inquiry's request for data from No 10.

[Which Tyler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65975154

The UK had one of the worst increases in death rates of major European economies during the Covid pandemic, BBC analysis has found.

Death rates in the UK were more than 5% higher on average each year of the pandemic than in the years just before it, largely driven by a huge death toll in the first year.

That was above the increase seen in France, Spain or Germany, but below Italy and significantly lower than the US.
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ARTICLE CONTINUES

[Mellsblue]

[morepork]

"experimental reopening of mass cultural events"

are you fucking serious? The general populace as a massive uncontrolled means to test an anecdotal public health hypothesis?

Get to fuck.

[Which Tyler]

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2 ... -symptoms/

COVID patients exhale high numbers of virus during the first eight days after symptoms start, as high as 1,000 copies per minute, reports a new Northwestern Medicine study.

It is the first longitudinal, direct measure of the number of SARS-CoV-2 viral copies exhaled per minute over the course of the infection — from the first sign of symptoms until 20 days after.

On day eight, exhaled levels of virus drop steeply, down to near the limit of detection —an average of two copies exhaled per minute.

[Sandydragon]

So I’ve broken my COVID virginity with a nasty little dose. It properly knocks you for six, even after vaccination and I’d still consider myself fit and healthy. Now the wife has it (I like to share). We’re doing what we consider to be sensible things like not visiting elderly friends and family, but this latest variant could cause some damage given that there’s no restrictions anymore.

[Which Tyler]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

[Sandydragon]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

Yeah, but that’s just the establishment looking after themselves. DOn’t you care about the truth?

[Stom]

Shockingly, the Nobel prize for medicine has gone to vaccine researchers, not YouTube uploaders.



Nobel Prize Awarded to Covid Vaccine Pioneers
The physiology or medicine prize for Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman recognized work that led to the development of vaccines that were administered to billions around the world.



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/02/heal ... icine.html?

Do you know how much angst this has caused over here?

A Hungarian won the Nobel Prize, wow, amazing.

The Covid vaccine won the Nobel Prize. Boo, hiss. Covid was a hoax.

So, yeah...

[Son of Mathonwy]

Holy crap, I'm in agreement with Dominic Cummings:

Cummings says UK could have avoided lockdown if massive test and trace capacity had been in place by March 2020
Q: At what point did people in government realise that without an effective test and trace system, there was no point trying to control the spread of the virus?

Cummings says at the end of February and the beginning of March people were not anticipating test and trace on a mass scale.

Around 12 March test and trace was in effect stopped.

Q: If an effective test and trace system had been put in place in January, February and March, could a lockdown have been avoided?

Cummings agrees.

He says from the end of December flights to and from China should have been stopped.

He says there should have been a hardcore testing system at airports, and a massive ramping up of testing infrastructure, with millions of tests available, and strict border controls.

If that had happened, there would have been less need for lockdown, he says. He says that would have been a better approach – although he accepts that it would not have been possible to produce this testing capacity “out of thin air”.

Shame he only realised this in retrospect.

Still, hopefully, if anything is learned from the Covid inquiry it's this.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ics-latest

[Son of Mathonwy]

Actually, much of Cummings's evidence is gold, especially on Hancock:

In one message sent in May 2020, Cummings wrote to Boris Johnson:

You need to think through timing of binning Hancock. There’s no way the guy can stay. He’s lied his way through this and killed people and dozens and dozens of people have seen it. He will have to go the question is when and who replaces.

And in another message in August 2020, Cummings said:

I also must stress I think leaving Hancock in post is a big mistake – he is a proven liar who nobody believes or [should] believe on anything, and we face going into autumn crisis with the cunt in charge of NHS still.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... ics-latest