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And calling everyone stupid all the time.
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Fascist.
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If you can stomach it, his recent press conference is something special.
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Good point well made.
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The baby's face says it all. In that reaction lies the only glimmer of hope for the USA.cashead wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:27 pmAn oldy, but a goody.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:20 pmA combination of the stupidity of the electorate and the stupidity of the Democratics.
The very picture of hinged.
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I have a silver lining from Trump. The Hungarian government's cozying up to China has led to a fall off in relations with the US. And the consigliere of the governmental mafia, Antal Rogan, has been added to the black list by the US government 
Definitely will see the fall of the Hungarian government next year, thank feck.

Definitely will see the fall of the Hungarian government next year, thank feck.
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I like the sound of that, but what makes you so confident?Stom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:38 pm I have a silver lining from Trump. The Hungarian government's cozying up to China has led to a fall off in relations with the US. And the consigliere of the governmental mafia, Antal Rogan, has been added to the black list by the US government
Definitely will see the fall of the Hungarian government next year, thank feck.
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The new opposition are ahead in the polls, and gaining every week. Viktor is losing all friends, getting too close to China, and no one likes itSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:21 pmI like the sound of that, but what makes you so confident?Stom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:38 pm I have a silver lining from Trump. The Hungarian government's cozying up to China has led to a fall off in relations with the US. And the consigliere of the governmental mafia, Antal Rogan, has been added to the black list by the US government
Definitely will see the fall of the Hungarian government next year, thank feck.
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I like it. What are the new opposition like?Stom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:25 pmThe new opposition are ahead in the polls, and gaining every week. Viktor is losing all friends, getting too close to China, and no one likes itSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:21 pmI like the sound of that, but what makes you so confident?Stom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:38 pm I have a silver lining from Trump. The Hungarian government's cozying up to China has led to a fall off in relations with the US. And the consigliere of the governmental mafia, Antal Rogan, has been added to the black list by the US government
Definitely will see the fall of the Hungarian government next year, thank feck.
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If there was no Fidesz, they'd be considered populists and we would be calling them bad names. But because of how bad Fidesz are, they're seen as the better option. They're basically a less corrupt Fidesz...which is better than the current government, but not exactly great.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:47 pmI like it. What are the new opposition like?Stom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:25 pmThe new opposition are ahead in the polls, and gaining every week. Viktor is losing all friends, getting too close to China, and no one likes itSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:21 pm
I like the sound of that, but what makes you so confident?
He might be very good, as a typical conservative in a very conservative country.
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A change would be good. But if Magyar is similar then he'll be tempted to use the same levers that Orban used to hold on to power. It's tentatively good that Magyar is campaigning against corruption . . . but didn't Trump do the same in 2016? Anyway, a change, even if it is to another populist would be better than more of Orban.Stom wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:31 pmIf there was no Fidesz, they'd be considered populists and we would be calling them bad names. But because of how bad Fidesz are, they're seen as the better option. They're basically a less corrupt Fidesz...which is better than the current government, but not exactly great.
He might be very good, as a typical conservative in a very conservative country.
NB, the polling between Fidesz and TISZA looks neck and neck - I wouldn't count Orban out yet.
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(I know this was a couple of days ago but...)
With Trump's zero-punishment unconditional discharge, the US proves that Presidents are above the law, even more widely than implied by their, recently acquired, immunity from prosecution for official acts. What is the point? He's a dictator for 4 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjdjk1dpplo
With Trump's zero-punishment unconditional discharge, the US proves that Presidents are above the law, even more widely than implied by their, recently acquired, immunity from prosecution for official acts. What is the point? He's a dictator for 4 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjdjk1dpplo
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I think it's safe to call him a fascist. Day one and we already have Nazi salutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... usk-salute
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That’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.cashead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am
Yes. He did it twice.
https://bsky.app/profile/romanpalace.bs ... 5zpyhhnk27
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In a sane world Tesla's share price would tank. But in a sane America this guy would be nowhere near power.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:42 amThat’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.
https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+s ... hare+price
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Is he not just demonstrating how great the economy is going to be?
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They knew what they were voting for. And here it comes.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... rders-list
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... rders-list
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At least he’s sticking to his manifesto. A true democrat.
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Exactly. It's no accident. The voting is done. He's finally brave enough to show the world that he doesn't just have fascistic leanings, he actually is a fascist.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:42 amThat’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.cashead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am
Yes. He did it twice.
https://bsky.app/profile/romanpalace.bs ... 5zpyhhnk27
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Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
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I hadn’t even considered there would be a worse angle than the ones above.

I certainly hope the (promise of) cheap gasoline is worth it.

I certainly hope the (promise of) cheap gasoline is worth it.
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An exuberant expression of fascism.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:46 am Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
Interesting times for Trump supporters who fancy themselves as being against antisemitism. I guess they'll brush it off after a second of cognitive dissonance. I see more cognitive dissonance in their future.
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Much moreSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:22 amAn exuberant expression of fascism.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:46 am Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
Interesting times for Trump supporters who fancy themselves as being against antisemitism. I guess they'll brush it off after a second of cognitive dissonance. I see more cognitive dissonance in their future.
Wouldn't all those Virginia tech guys chanting the Jews will not replace us be trump supporters?
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I'm trying to work out if Musk's admission of fascism is good or bad. I mean, obviously it's bad that he's a fascist (rather than merely a right wing dick), but given that he is, is it good or bad that he's revealed it to the world?
Positive:
It might cause a backlash, like people not buying Teslas, dropping X for good, ideally (if they had any sense) that's what the UK government should do, the world showing Musk that he is now toxic. This will happen to a degree but how much?
Negative:
Fascism becomes normalised (which is presumably Musk's intention), it gets explained away, laughed off, but is then easier to do again etc. We're already in a world where a genocide has taken place in plain sight but has been denied by most western nations.
I'm thinking, more likely on the negative side, but we shall see.
Positive:
It might cause a backlash, like people not buying Teslas, dropping X for good, ideally (if they had any sense) that's what the UK government should do, the world showing Musk that he is now toxic. This will happen to a degree but how much?
Negative:
Fascism becomes normalised (which is presumably Musk's intention), it gets explained away, laughed off, but is then easier to do again etc. We're already in a world where a genocide has taken place in plain sight but has been denied by most western nations.
I'm thinking, more likely on the negative side, but we shall see.
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Definitely negative there's zero blow back from it