America

[morepork]

You kind of have to admire it.

Try living in it you fucker.

[morepork]

Just embarrassingly indefensible.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Trump does what he said he would not do and backtracks on most of the tariffs. Chickening out? Drunk on power? Setting up opportunities for insider trading? Just random decisions emerging from his deteriorating brain? Markets relieved. What will he post tomorrow?

Great times for options (volatility) traders.

Concentrating on China makes more sense than attacking the world (although he is still doing that at 10%). What would have been smart would be to have coordinated actions with other western countries against China. Instead he's massively pissed them off and made any cooperation unlikely for the next few decades.

So the EU is on 10% just like the UK. So much for the Brexit benefit and Starmer's amazing diplomacy.

[paddy no 11]

A shameless bunch of grifters is all they are (at best)

[Which Tyler]

Carney’s Checkmate: How Canada's Quiet Bond Play Forced Trump to Drop Tariffs
Carney, Japan And The EU proved America's Idiot Emperor Has No Clothes

[Son of Mathonwy]

Carney’s Checkmate: How Canada's Quiet Bond Play Forced Trump to Drop Tariffs
Carney, Japan And The EU proved America's Idiot Emperor Has No Clothes

Sweet.

[Sandydragon]

And in case anyone was thinking that Trump wasn’t a real authoritarian:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-04-09/

I’m guessing that not many on here will give two hoots about the individuals, but we should all care about the principle here. Investigated for treason for daring to not agree with the President. This is incredibly dangerous and justifies Bidens mass pardons in advance.

[Son of Mathonwy]

And in case anyone was thinking that Trump wasn’t a real authoritarian:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-04-09/

I’m guessing that not many on here will give two hoots about the individuals, but we should all care about the principle here. Investigated for treason for daring to not agree with the President. This is incredibly dangerous and justifies Bidens mass pardons in advance.

Agreed.

I wonder if Trump will direct the SEC to investigate insider dealing from anyone connected to the White House this week.

I do hope, if the USA ever returns to sanity, that sane president would put an end to presidential pardons once and for all. (Admittedly this would require an amendment to the constitution, so really would need a wholesale return to sanity from the US to get it passed.)

[paddy no 11]

And in case anyone was thinking that Trump wasn’t a real authoritarian:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-04-09/

I’m guessing that not many on here will give two hoots about the individuals, but we should all care about the principle here. Investigated for treason for daring to not agree with the President. This is incredibly dangerous and justifies Bidens mass pardons in advance.

Agreed.

I wonder if Trump will direct the SEC to investigate insider dealing from anyone connected to the White House this week.

I do hope, if the USA ever returns to sanity, that sane president would put an end to presidential pardons once and for all. (Admittedly this would require an amendment to the constitution, so really would need a wholesale return to sanity from the US to get it passed.)

He's appointed people who are quite happy for a coup to take place though, the market has put manners on him for now but sanity not coming anytime soon

[Sandydragon]

And in case anyone was thinking that Trump wasn’t a real authoritarian:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump- ... 025-04-09/

I’m guessing that not many on here will give two hoots about the individuals, but we should all care about the principle here. Investigated for treason for daring to not agree with the President. This is incredibly dangerous and justifies Bidens mass pardons in advance.

Agreed.

I wonder if Trump will direct the SEC to investigate insider dealing from anyone connected to the White House this week.

I do hope, if the USA ever returns to sanity, that sane president would put an end to presidential pardons once and for all. (Admittedly this would require an amendment to the constitution, so really would need a wholesale return to sanity from the US to get it passed.)

The constitution needs a huge rewrite. Maybe this is the shock needed but I doubt it.

[paddy no 11]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

[Son of Mathonwy]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Not seeing much beyond "I don't wanna."

They're claiming they aren't able to, which is laughable because presumably they're paying El Salvador to hold him.

And they don't wanna.

[morepork]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

[Which Tyler]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

I think it's more "make me" than "don't wanna"
which may seem like a difference without a difference; but I think that they think they can get away with this one, and set a precedent for doing the same, and worse, going forwards.

They've already turned ICE into the Stasi; now they just need to know that they can get away with it - it's what they've decided to make the test case

[Which Tyler]

Source: The Declaration of Independence:

Grievance 16
"For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world."

Grievance 17
"For imposing taxes on us without our consent."

Grievance 18
"For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of trial by jury."

Grievance 19
"For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses."

[Puja]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

[paddy no 11]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

So it's unlimited power time, like those project 2025 people wanted...........wtf is their end goal just make the uber rich white cabal even richer?

[Stom]

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

So it's unlimited power time, like those project 2025 people wanted...........wtf is their end goal just make the uber rich white cabal even richer?

Reshape the world in their image...They have rather glaring similarities to a group of extremists from the 1930s...

[Sandydragon]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

He hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.

[morepork]

Have thay given any reason why the citizen sent to el Salvador incorrectly will not be returned???

Other than him not being white enough?

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

Working for free and pressuring the Supreme Court to uphold the constitutional judicial power of government in checking the excess of the executive branch. It's fucking ugly here people. Civil Rights Act MkII. From the street to the court, this is being fought tooth and nail.

[paddy no 11]

Nope. There are some ballsy law firms on the case though. Welcome to the Terradome.

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

He hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.

So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?

[Sandydragon]

What exactly are the law firms planning on doing given that he's flat out ignored the Supreme Court saying to bring the guy back? His own, stacked and stuffed, Supreme Court voted unanimously that he had to undo the rendition, and he's shrugged his shoulders and said he's not going to.

Puja

He hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.

So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?

Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.

Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.

[morepork]

He hasn’t quite got the point of refusing to obey the court order, he’s just saying that he can’t. It’s all complete BS, but just about keeps him away from a constitutional crisis for the moment.

So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?

Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.

Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.

Public opinion is not with him.

[paddy no 11]

So he'll eventually say no and gets some body to turn and not execute their role and basically he's emperor overnight......this is how it plays out?

Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.

Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.

Public opinion is not with him.

Is heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outside

[Sandydragon]

:

Maybe. Honestly don’t know. Weren’t not quite at constitutional crisis stage at the moment, he isn’t stating publicly that he will ignore a court order.

Will he decide that the courts can’t do much and public opinion is with him, so he might as well just ignore the judiciary? Dunno. I wouldn’t put it past him.

Public opinion is not with him.

Is heavily armed public opinion with him? I should adopt your optimistic outlook given you are there but it looks brutal from the outside

Sorry. To be clear I was referring to his base. They seem to like the idea of alleged gang members being disappeared to El Salvador. Some will probably not care if he does defy the courts but some seem to regard the constitution as sacred and might not approve. Trump won’t give a toss about upsetting Democrats