Partly because I'm (attempting) to do this quickly, but mostly cause there didn't seem to be anything interesting to count!
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Partly because I'm (attempting) to do this quickly, but mostly cause there didn't seem to be anything interesting to count!
Not sure I said that to be fair. I admit my prejudice against him and was asking for factual evidence to confirm/reject my impression that he was not heavily involved. I also accept that the nature of the game might not have helped. Like him or not, one fact is that SB nearly always takes him off whereas Earl and Pepper have often done 80.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:23 pm I'm really invested in this now that Oakboy has decided Underhill was bad.
Fair point. I hope that didn’t come off as bad spirited.Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 8:15 amNot sure I said that to be fair. I admit my prejudice against him and was asking for factual evidence to confirm/reject my impression that he was not heavily involved. I also accept that the nature of the game might not have helped. Like him or not, one fact is that SB nearly always takes him off whereas Earl and Pepper have often done 80.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:23 pm I'm really invested in this now that Oakboy has decided Underhill was bad.
He has been quiet so far since I've started paying attention to him. Not bad and I'm sure he's been doing solid structural things in the rucks, but I haven't noticed anything blockbuster from him.Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 8:15 amNot sure I said that to be fair. I admit my prejudice against him and was asking for factual evidence to confirm/reject my impression that he was not heavily involved. I also accept that the nature of the game might not have helped. Like him or not, one fact is that SB nearly always takes him off whereas Earl and Pepper have often done 80.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:23 pm I'm really invested in this now that Oakboy has decided Underhill was bad.
Thanks, Puja.Puja wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 9:53 amHe has been quiet so far since I've started paying attention to him. Not bad and I'm sure he's been doing solid structural things in the rucks, but I haven't noticed anything blockbuster from him.Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 8:15 amNot sure I said that to be fair. I admit my prejudice against him and was asking for factual evidence to confirm/reject my impression that he was not heavily involved. I also accept that the nature of the game might not have helped. Like him or not, one fact is that SB nearly always takes him off whereas Earl and Pepper have often done 80.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 12, 2026 8:23 pm I'm really invested in this now that Oakboy has decided Underhill was bad.
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It’s maybe a small/basic thing, but Dingwall’s change of line and weight of the final pass for Roebuck are beautiful.Puja wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 9:51 am Minute 41: We rejoin the second half with the news that Genge has been put out of our misery and we will have Rodd for the last 40. Ford restarts the match for the very first time, and it's contestibleish - just outside the 22 and Arundell leaps to try and disrupt, but it's just beyond his range. Wales recycle and try to caterpillar-and-box, but Chessum is rewarded for his unrelenting charge-down attempts by either getting a hand to this one or putting off TWilliams enough that he fucks it. Either way it skews infield without going very far and should be England's ball, except that Coles blots his copybook for the first time by slapping at the descending ball despite having more than enough time to catch it. He makes solid enough contact to spike it like a volleyball, the bounce of a rugby ball always hates you, and it goes away from any of his teammates and flies neatly into Welsh arms. TWilliams gets another chance to kick it away, but this time Rodd is on him with the chargedown - he doesn't get to the ball, but does get a very satisfying piece of the scrum-half as he goes through (legally). Ping-pong is engaged.
Minute 42: Ping-pong lasts about half a minute, before Ford decides to find touch, accepting a Welsh lineout just inside our half. Wales finally get a bit of deception in their movement by feinting to the middle before a bullet throw to the front man on the ground - we do read it, but they're slick enough to get the ball away before we can spoil. There's some zip and direction about the Welsh attack, but it only lasts two phases before Adams spills an easy pass and it'll be an England scrum.
Minute 43: Good scrum - Rodd gets a drive on against Griffin and powers through for an England penalty. Entirely possible a different ref might've reset that one, as Heyes doesn't get anything out of NSmith and I'd say that went round 90 rather than any offence in the front row, but Mann has broken off from the backrow anyway so it's probably a penalty even if it's not necessarily the one that the ref gave.
Minute 44: Ford finds a good touch in the 22 and England take a quick jump at the front to set a maul. It's a good one, but Wales have cheated like absolute bastards, with McLeod coming straight in at the side and ending up swinging to the back to get in the way.
Minute 45: The ref hasn't seen it and Heyes does really well to find an angle to get it away to Mitchell, so it's play on. Earl is first receiver and it's lovely smooth hands to feed Dingwall at playmaker. Wales are coming up hard on the blitz and are very interested in trying to catch Dingwall man and ball, or Freeman if he offloads, but Dingers holds it until the last moment before pulling back to Ford who is looping around. Wales reckon they've got this and their inside man blitzes onto Ford, but it's George has the hands and the composure to get the ball away a milisecond before the tackle and Wales realise too late that they now have one defender and both Roebuck and Steward are running glorious lines off Ford. He, of course, has managed to read that the last defender is gambling for Steward and instead finds the short pass to Roebuck who accelerates through the gap.
I know I can be quite prolix about these things, but it's worth noting that I just used 137 words to describe a span of literally 2 seconds, in which we put in 3 quick accurate passes in close quarters, doing a precise move that took us from facing a hard blitz of a solidly-connected defensive line off set piece, into a clean break through the middle by our winger. Blackett is doing quite well, I'd say.
He will have a word or two to say to Roebuck though - he shows great pace and power to shrug off the scramble, but if he straightens his line and offloads, then Steward is walking under the posts for a 100% score. Instead Roebuck keeps running diagonally, in the hope that he'll beat the last man to get over the line himself, and LRZ puts in a superb tackle to haul him down 4 metres out. England pile over the ruck and stop Wales from killing the ball (although we do get pen advantage for their attempts). George makes a hard carry the same direction to panic the defence some more and, by the time Mitchell moves the ball back the other way towards where the lineout was, we've got an 8-on-2 overlap across half the pitch. Efficiently finished off as Ford draws one man, Dingwall catches and gives to draw the other, and Roebuck gets our fifth try just two phases later than it should've been.
Highly appreciated as always Puja.Puja wrote: ↑Fri Feb 13, 2026 11:46 pm It is entirely possible that that may be all you get, as I am playing rugby tomorrow and will be heading off to Scotland immediately after the match (sadly not to Murrayfield; unrelated family holiday), so I will try and complete the last 20 minutes in the morning, but I can make you no promises.
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Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Feb 14, 2026 10:40 am Don’t worry about finishing it. It’s clear enough already Ford robbed Underhill of his MOTM award.