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Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:22 pm
by Mr Mwenda
FKAS wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:07 pm That's a horrible call. Phantom push.
England's composure has disintegrated after that. Really annoying in such an exciting game. Ireland in their groove now.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:23 pm
by Stom
That gap. Ffs. Both left the decision to each other. Poor from CCS, appalling from Keef. We’re appalling again.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:24 pm
by Mellsblue
Anyone know what Keef says about players coming to start a fight etc etc

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:25 pm
by Which Tyler
Jebus Cadan

You wait, you wait, you wait...
Then why pick it up and try to go anywhere at all?

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:25 pm
by FKAS
FFS Murley is a liability at the back.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:26 pm
by p/d
Murley is s*****

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:26 pm
by Oakboy
Murley is a defensive disaster. The 6:2 bench needs a re-think.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:27 pm
by Captainhaircut
I’m sure everyone will say it’s sour grapes but it’s literally impossible to win in Dublin when the ref has decided at half time to give them every single decision. Phantom pushes, made up forward passes, wrong scrum pens, ignores head contact at tackles, threatens players who start fights but clearly only means if it’s us.

This guy should have been struck off the ref list when he wilfully ignored Tom Curry’s head injury in the Oz game.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:28 pm
by Mellsblue
Murley’s head went 10/15/20 mins ago. He should’ve bee hooked but a 6:2 bench and/or the spreadsheet meant it didn’t/couldn’t happen.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:28 pm
by Mellsblue
T Cuzza has been immense.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:29 pm
by Mellsblue
Different match, same old capitulation.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:29 pm
by Which Tyler
FFS

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:31 pm
by astralweeks
p/d wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:26 pmMurley is s*****
He's not that shite, he was my 1st try scorer

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:31 pm
by Stom
Really feels like Keef has been bought here. He’s been truly appalling

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:32 pm
by Mellsblue
We desperately need Quirke or JVP to make the jump to test match standard.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:32 pm
by Stom
Well, that try was all Slade. If he misses that tackle he had to get back, if he’d sprinted, he’d have made it, he just jogged.

He’d been good today, I thought, too. But that was awful

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:35 pm
by Mellsblue
The comeback is on.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:36 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:28 pm Murley’s head went 10/15/20 mins ago. He should’ve bee hooked but a 6:2 bench and/or the spreadsheet meant it didn’t/couldn’t happen.
Borthwick has decided to chase the game and the decision is to keep the free scoring winger on. You don't expect an experienced to keep soiling the bed for routine moments.

Now Freeman has a go at missing a routine tackle out wide.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:36 pm
by astralweeks
That lowe is pretty unpleasant

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:36 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:35 pm The comeback is on.
Nice little play. Lawrence has probably played his best game in an England shirt today.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:37 pm
by FKAS
astralweeks wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:36 pm That lowe is pretty unpleasant
I think the apt description is bell end.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:38 pm
by Insouciant
Was it just me seeing a forward pass in the build up to the last Ireland try? It's behind the cut of the grass.. then passed long and is then in front of it, the hands even go forwards imo.

Murley's not had a great game defensively. Did well for England's late try though.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:41 pm
by Stom
I get it, when the ref is so one-eyed as Keef has been today, it's really, really hard to pick yourself up.

But you need to.

We've simply capitulated. As we consistently have under SB. It's just not good enough.

And yes, two headline poor mistakes from Murley, but where is there anyone walking hi through? He's scored and assisted. But where's the support for a young player making his debut?

It's a system problem. Because it's all over the pitch that we're making poor individual mistakes. Mitchell, Smith, Steward, Slade... And I don't think it's their fault. And when we do get the ball...it's like we play rugby for 20 minutes and then decide "that's enough of that" and just kick it away from then on. And it's not just today, it's through the entirety of SBs reign.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:42 pm
by Stom
Insouciant wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:38 pm Was it just me seeing a forward pass in the build up to the last Ireland try? It's behind the cut of the grass.. then passed long and is then in front of it, the hands even go forwards imo.

Murley's not had a great game defensively. Did well for England's late try though.
It was forward. Keef gave Ireland 12 points today...this performance from him SHOULD get an interrogation, as it was beyond the pale. I was expecting poor because it is Keef, but this has been past that.

Re: Ireland vs England - Sat 4.45pm

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:42 pm
by Oakboy
In terms of overall strategy over 80 minutes was that a management shambles? I think that was not much above 80% possible. SB is gone for me.