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Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:31 pm
by Sandydragon
And I definitely prefer Liam Williams at full back.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:43 pm
by normanski
Gone scrappy 13-0

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:45 pm
by Sandydragon
normanski wrote:Gone scrappy 13-0
Not that convincing. Hopefully our fitness levels will allow us to open the score line up a bit.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:50 pm
by Buggaluggs
Wasted that 10min yellow a bit

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:53 pm
by Sandydragon
We need to get the ball through the hands so why Webb are you kicking like that?!

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:54 pm
by Buggaluggs
Great warm-up for England. I imagine England are getting nervous watching this.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:55 pm
by Sandydragon
Our lineout is once again not a source of comfort.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:58 pm
by normanski
Sandydragon wrote:We need to get the ball through the hands so why Webb are you kicking like that?!
Webb seems devoid of any ideas, kicking when we’re on the front foot and giving them the chance to run us back into our 22.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:59 pm
by Sandydragon
This has been a truely forgettable second half.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:01 pm
by normanski
Sandydragon wrote:This has been a truely forgettable second half.
Had high hopes for second half.

OFS Webb just scores a try!

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:01 pm
by Sandydragon
Good try scored there. I’m liking Jonny Williams. Good direct running. LRZ showing some real promise as well.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:05 pm
by Buggaluggs
How has Sheedy looked?

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:10 pm
by Sandydragon
Buggaluggs wrote:How has Sheedy looked?
Good. Lots of composure and some nice touches. Admittedly he has been working behind a pack that has provided him with decent ball, but I’d like to see him against better opposition.

I’m going as far to suggest that he should start against England, along with Jonny Williams and Tompkins, with Liam at full back and LRZ on one wing with Adams on another.

I think I’d stick with Lloyd Williams at scrum half with Hardy or Gareth Davies on the bench.

There will be some big calls up front as well given that I think that’s the strongest front row we have at the moment (that which started tonight) and Ball deserves to start. Seb Davies or AWJ???

Botham did alright at blind side but he isn’t nailed on. Tipuric may not be available after a smack to the head and I’m
Hoping Navidi is back.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:15 pm
by Graigwen
It was a great game from Ball, he kept plugging away till the end.

Kieron Hardy looked at home. Callum Sheedy was good.

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Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:16 pm
by Graigwen
Jonny Williams looked to have a strenth and determination better than Tomkins.

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Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:24 pm
by Graigwen
Sandydragon wrote:...

Botham did alright at blind side but he isn’t nailed on. Tipuric may not be available after a smack to the head and I’m
Hoping Navidi is back.
I am more confused now than before about the back row. I would like to see the stats. Botham was OK but needs more experience.

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Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:27 pm
by Graigwen
McNicholls problem was a popped rib cartilage apparently - ouch!

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:02 pm
by normanski
Lots of plusses but also some negatives. I fear greatly England next Saturday.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:03 pm
by Wallpaperman
Nice to get a win at last. A decent performance given the conditions and changes to the line up, but it’s a step up against England to say the least.

Hopefully Pivac is now convinced of the merits of props who can scrummage. Wyn Jones has to start next week, and I’d pick Samson Lee, but would also be happy with Francis.

Really good game from Jake Ball tonight, and I reckon he will start next week, too. Pivac likes Will Rowlands but I think he’ll be on the bench at best.

Tough night for the backs in those conditions but Jonny Williams has put himself in with a good chance of starting, likewise Sheedy. And surely Liam Williams will be full back.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:49 pm
by Sandydragon
Graigwen wrote:McNicholls problem was a popped rib cartilage apparently - ouch!
Yeah, that really hurts.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:54 pm
by Sandydragon
Wallpaperman wrote:Nice to get a win at last. A decent performance given the conditions and changes to the line up, but it’s a step up against England to say the least.

Hopefully Pivac is now convinced of the merits of props who can scrummage. Wyn Jones has to start next week, and I’d pick Samson Lee, but would also be happy with Francis.

Really good game from Jake Ball tonight, and I reckon he will start next week, too. Pivac likes Will Rowlands but I think he’ll be on the bench at best.

Tough night for the backs in those conditions but Jonny Williams has put himself in with a good chance of starting, likewise Sheedy. And surely Liam Williams will be full back.
If JD2 is fit then I suspect he will start but if not then I’d pick Tomkins.

Back row is intriguing. Some new flankers have done alright, but next week is a massive step up. I’d pick Wainwirght at blindside and Faletau at number 8. If Navidi is fit then he has to start, potentially at open side asi suspect Tips might not be available. If Tips can plan the Navidi to blindside.

The biggest call o suspect will be at fly half. I’d start Sheedy and at best have Biggar on the bench. We will be up against it next Saturday and when we get possession we need to show some threat.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:58 pm
by Graigwen
Sandydragon wrote:
Graigwen wrote:McNicholls problem was a popped rib cartilage apparently - ouch!
Yeah, that really hurts.

The only time between 1959 and 1988 that I failed to finish a game was when I popped a load of cartilages on one side, then swapped from tight head to loose head and popped the matching set on the other side at the next scrum. What an idiot! The pain was truly terrible.

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Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:12 pm
by Sandydragon
Graigwen wrote:
Sandydragon wrote:
Graigwen wrote:McNicholls problem was a popped rib cartilage apparently - ouch!
Yeah, that really hurts.

The only time between 1959 and 1988 that I failed to finish a game was when I popped a load of cartilages on one side, then swapped from tight head to loose head and popped the matching set on the other side at the next scrum. What an idiot! The pain was truly terrible.

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I was scrummaging against some big fat farming bastard when mine went. Finishing games with parts of my body taped up want unusual but I couldn’t play on with that. For at least a week it hurt every time I breathed.

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:02 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Nice get a win and avoid the possibility of Pivac suffering some kind of record-breaking run of losses during the 6N.

Line out was okay, not great. The scrum was dominant, which was great to see. In the breakdown we did okay but not well enough to set our backs free. We saw very little fireworks from the backs. Most players looked competent and not much more. LRZ did have one nice big run and was perhaps the best of the backs.

18-0. Nice to nil them, but for context: Scotland got 48-7 and England 40-0 against them. So not great really.

I'm not sure what Pivac's plan is supposed to look like in ideal conditions (unless it's what the Scarlets looked like a few years back), but if we can't get it together against Georgia, if we can't run in a few more tries, what chance against a good team? No chance against England.

What does this mean for the England game? Same front row as today, clearly. Ball and AWJ. Have we lost Tips? Jesus, hope we don't have to play Cubby. None of our scrum halves have claimed the shirt (pick one at random). Sheedy looked competent but not obviously better than Biggar (I'd still go for Patchell if fit). Centres, no one is nailed on. Tompkins and JD2? But I've no strong opinion. Adams and LRZ. Liam at full back (although Sheedy might not be accurate enough, so we might need 1/2p somewhere)

Re: Team for Georgia

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:52 am
by Graigwen
Sandydragon wrote: I was scrummaging against some big fat farming bastard when mine went. Finishing games with parts of my body taped up want unusual but I couldn’t play on with that. For at least a week it hurt every time I breathed.

Yes, the pain was in a class it its own. I had played through various injuries, the summit of stupidity being 75 minutes with a broken arm, but that was not as bad as the rib cartilages.

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