Team for Georgia
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- Numbers
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Team for Georgia
Well I think we could afford to experiment a little in this game, I think it's quite important that we win this one so I think this is the team I would pick:
Wyn Jones
Dee
Francis
Ball
Davies
SLH
Navidi
Faletau
Webb
Patchell
Adams
Williams
Tompkins
Rees-Zammit
Holmes
Bench:
Smith
Parry
Brown
AWJ
Wainwright
Hardy
Sheedy
North
However, Pivac has apparently mentioned lots of changes so it could be a wholesale change.
Wyn Jones
Dee
Francis
Ball
Davies
SLH
Navidi
Faletau
Webb
Patchell
Adams
Williams
Tompkins
Rees-Zammit
Holmes
Bench:
Smith
Parry
Brown
AWJ
Wainwright
Hardy
Sheedy
North
However, Pivac has apparently mentioned lots of changes so it could be a wholesale change.
- Son of Mathonwy
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Re: Team for Georgia
Pivac's called up James Botham and Johnny McNicholl. I haven't noticed Botham but McNicholl was on fire on SaturdayNumbers wrote:Well I think we could afford to experiment a little in this game, I think it's quite important that we win this one so I think this is the team I would pick:
Wyn Jones
Dee
Francis
Ball
Davies
SLH
Navidi
Faletau
Webb
Patchell
Adams
Williams
Tompkins
Rees-Zammit
Holmes
Bench:
Smith
Parry
Brown
AWJ
Wainwright
Hardy
Sheedy
North
However, Pivac has apparently mentioned lots of changes so it could be a wholesale change.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54966413
- Son of Mathonwy
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Re: Team for Georgia
Why Botham not Ollie Griffiths? I guess the Dragons' Covid quarantine would rule him out?Son of Mathonwy wrote: Pivac's called up James Botham and Johnny McNicholl. I haven't noticed Botham but McNicholl was on fire on Saturday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54966413
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Re: Team for Georgia
Botham has looked good for the Blues when he's played, I think he picked up a MOM award a few weeks ago, I would rather have Ollie Griffiths or Thomas Young but maybe they are unavailable.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Pivac's called up James Botham and Johnny McNicholl. I haven't noticed Botham but McNicholl was on fire on SaturdayNumbers wrote:Well I think we could afford to experiment a little in this game, I think it's quite important that we win this one so I think this is the team I would pick:
Wyn Jones
Dee
Francis
Ball
Davies
SLH
Navidi
Faletau
Webb
Patchell
Adams
Williams
Tompkins
Rees-Zammit
Holmes
Bench:
Smith
Parry
Brown
AWJ
Wainwright
Hardy
Sheedy
North
However, Pivac has apparently mentioned lots of changes so it could be a wholesale change.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54966413
- Graigwen
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Re: Team for Georgia
We are playing Georgia, who are not at their best.
I am hoping for a lot of experimentation.
(It would have been a good game for Carre to get experience.....but.....)
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I am hoping for a lot of experimentation.
(It would have been a good game for Carre to get experience.....but.....)
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Re: Team for Georgia
LRZ to start on one wing. Hopefully Josh Adams on the other to give him a game where he can actually use his attacking ability, he has been working very hard.
We have been unthreatening in the centre for ages, something has to change.
I am not convinced Biggar has been 100% fit.
We have been using Halfpenny at the breakdown, that suggests something very wrong with organisation.
We have been unthreatening in the centre for ages, something has to change.
I am not convinced Biggar has been 100% fit.
We have been using Halfpenny at the breakdown, that suggests something very wrong with organisation.
- Sandydragon
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Re: Team for Georgia
Seriously gutted for Griffiths. He's a fine player who has terrible luck with injuries and now this.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Why Botham not Ollie Griffiths? I guess the Dragons' Covid quarantine would rule him out?Son of Mathonwy wrote: Pivac's called up James Botham and Johnny McNicholl. I haven't noticed Botham but McNicholl was on fire on Saturday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54966413
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Re: Team for Georgia
Although I'd like to see Patchell and Sheedy, and LRZ and McNicholl and Tompkins all doing amazing attacking rugby, the important thing is for Wales to get it's tactics working. If (in Pivac's opinion) that takes another game with largely the same team, that's fine with me. Main priority is to get the best team to get our set piece functioning.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Gutted for him, gutted for Wales.Sandydragon wrote:Seriously gutted for Griffiths. He's a fine player who has terrible luck with injuries and now this.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Why Botham not Ollie Griffiths? I guess the Dragons' Covid quarantine would rule him out?Son of Mathonwy wrote: Pivac's called up James Botham and Johnny McNicholl. I haven't noticed Botham but McNicholl was on fire on Saturday
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54966413
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Re: Team for Georgia
Aye, I thought Griffiths and Ellis Jenkins were going to emerge as our key flankers but both have had a terrible time with injuries.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Gutted for him, gutted for Wales.Sandydragon wrote:Seriously gutted for Griffiths. He's a fine player who has terrible luck with injuries and now this.Son of Mathonwy wrote: Why Botham not Ollie Griffiths? I guess the Dragons' Covid quarantine would rule him out?
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Re: Team for Georgia
I largely agree with this. I don't want to see 12 changes which result in us scraping home and being really confused as to what just happened. I think there are some experiments that can take place and some players who can be rested, but I'd keep a lot of the same faces in there.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Although I'd like to see Patchell and Sheedy, and LRZ and McNicholl and Tompkins all doing amazing attacking rugby, the important thing is for Wales to get it's tactics working. If (in Pivac's opinion) that takes another game with largely the same team, that's fine with me. Main priority is to get the best team to get our set piece functioning.
The only down side is that some of our key players have played in the last 3 games so might need a break.
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Re: Team for Georgia
According to the Western Mail I might get some of my wishes.
13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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Re: Team for Georgia
I read that last night as well. Really not sure about McNicholl, but given how much Adams has played I can see why he was rotated. That backline can do some damage and the front row is a strong one. I've never been sure about Seb Davies, but that's a decent front five. The back row is a bit experimental, but without Moriarty fit then we are a bit stuck at No8, and Botham probably deserves an opportunity within the non-availability of Olly Griffiths.Graigwen wrote:According to the Western Mail I might get some of my wishes.
13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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Re: Team for Georgia
While that forecasted team could do some damage to Georgia it could also go horribly wrong for Wales.Sandydragon wrote:I read that last night as well. Really not sure about McNicholl, but given how much Adams has played I can see why he was rotated. That backline can do some damage and the front row is a strong one. I've never been sure about Seb Davies, but that's a decent front five. The back row is a bit experimental, but without Moriarty fit then we are a bit stuck at No8, and Botham probably deserves an opportunity within the non-availability of Olly Griffiths.Graigwen wrote:According to the Western Mail I might get some of my wishes.
13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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Unless these players have really gelled in training over recent weeks it would only take a dominant Georgia scrum for the side, who must be hurting after heavy defeats so far, to get on the front foot and tackle and batter Wales into submission. The effect on the young players could be catastrophic.
Ever the optimist, I believe we are going to see some of the best attacking rugby from Wales so far in 2020.
Wales to win by at least two scores.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Thats a real concern. Georgia pushed us very close a few seasons ago and we only won because of some dodgy refereeing if I remember correctly.normanski wrote:While that forecasted team could do some damage to Georgia it could also go horribly wrong for Wales.Sandydragon wrote:I read that last night as well. Really not sure about McNicholl, but given how much Adams has played I can see why he was rotated. That backline can do some damage and the front row is a strong one. I've never been sure about Seb Davies, but that's a decent front five. The back row is a bit experimental, but without Moriarty fit then we are a bit stuck at No8, and Botham probably deserves an opportunity within the non-availability of Olly Griffiths.Graigwen wrote:According to the Western Mail I might get some of my wishes.
13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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Unless these players have really gelled in training over recent weeks it would only take a dominant Georgia scrum for the side, who must be hurting after heavy defeats so far, to get on the front foot and tackle and batter Wales into submission. The effect on the young players could be catastrophic.
Ever the optimist, I believe we are going to see some of the best attacking rugby from Wales so far in 2020.
Wales to win by at least two scores.
Hopefully with a strong scrummaging front row we can nullify that threat and a mobile back row can generate some quick ball. I'm still worried that the tactics used by Privac means that we keep getting out muscled at the breakdown, but we shall see.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Looking at the bench, theres not a great deal there to rescue us if Georgia do get the upper hand physically.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Whereas that is true we beat them 43-14 at last years world cup.Sandydragon wrote:Thats a real concern. Georgia pushed us very close a few seasons ago and we only won because of some dodgy refereeing if I remember correctly.normanski wrote:While that forecasted team could do some damage to Georgia it could also go horribly wrong for Wales.Sandydragon wrote: I read that last night as well. Really not sure about McNicholl, but given how much Adams has played I can see why he was rotated. That backline can do some damage and the front row is a strong one. I've never been sure about Seb Davies, but that's a decent front five. The back row is a bit experimental, but without Moriarty fit then we are a bit stuck at No8, and Botham probably deserves an opportunity within the non-availability of Olly Griffiths.
Unless these players have really gelled in training over recent weeks it would only take a dominant Georgia scrum for the side, who must be hurting after heavy defeats so far, to get on the front foot and tackle and batter Wales into submission. The effect on the young players could be catastrophic.
Ever the optimist, I believe we are going to see some of the best attacking rugby from Wales so far in 2020.
Wales to win by at least two scores.
Hopefully with a strong scrummaging front row we can nullify that threat and a mobile back row can generate some quick ball. I'm still worried that the tactics used by Privac means that we keep getting out muscled at the breakdown, but we shall see.
I worry for the scrum, the lineout I think we will be better in as Georgia are no great shakes in that department, I'm hoping the forecast isn't for rain as that would definitely play into Georgia's hands.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Umm, I've just checked and it looks like strong winds and rain are forecast for Saturday, I'm half tempted to have a bet on Georgia as they are 40/1.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Not a bad idea, every cloud and all that.Numbers wrote:Umm, I've just checked and it looks like strong winds and rain are forecast for Saturday, I'm half tempted to have a bet on Georgia as they are 40/1.
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Actually, I wonder what the odds are for a shit game which Wales emerged as winners through luck are?Sandydragon wrote:Not a bad idea, every cloud and all that.Numbers wrote:Umm, I've just checked and it looks like strong winds and rain are forecast for Saturday, I'm half tempted to have a bet on Georgia as they are 40/1.
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Re: Team for Georgia
I have a nagging fear that might be the case but we have to have faith - there’s not much else to keep our spirits up.Sandydragon wrote:Actually, I wonder what the odds are for a shit game which Wales emerged as winners through luck are?Sandydragon wrote:Not a bad idea, every cloud and all that.Numbers wrote:Umm, I've just checked and it looks like strong winds and rain are forecast for Saturday, I'm half tempted to have a bet on Georgia as they are 40/1.
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Re: Team for Georgia
You could get the handicap bet for that, Wales are 7/2 to win by 1-12 points, looking at odds checker the odds for Georgia to win has dropped to 22/1 at best.Sandydragon wrote:Actually, I wonder what the odds are for a shit game which Wales emerged as winners through luck are?Sandydragon wrote:Not a bad idea, every cloud and all that.Numbers wrote:Umm, I've just checked and it looks like strong winds and rain are forecast for Saturday, I'm half tempted to have a bet on Georgia as they are 40/1.
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Re: Team for Georgia
I think it will be a 2 or 3 score win for Wales, and am pleased to see that they have gone for a scrummaging front row. Nicky Smith and Leon Brown could be in for a test later on.
Obviously it is a very inexperienced side, but there is a lot of pace in the backline, which should see Wales over the line with a bit to spare. The slight worry is that individual players will see the match as a chance to shine, and not play as a team. Fingers crossed for Saturday !!
Obviously it is a very inexperienced side, but there is a lot of pace in the backline, which should see Wales over the line with a bit to spare. The slight worry is that individual players will see the match as a chance to shine, and not play as a team. Fingers crossed for Saturday !!
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Re: Team for Georgia
I'm guessing a flood of Welsh fans wanting to hedge their bets on that one!Numbers wrote:You could get the handicap bet for that, Wales are 7/2 to win by 1-12 points, looking at odds checker the odds for Georgia to win has dropped to 22/1 at best.Sandydragon wrote:Actually, I wonder what the odds are for a shit game which Wales emerged as winners through luck are?Sandydragon wrote: Not a bad idea, every cloud and all that.
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Re: Team for Georgia
Superforecasters.Graigwen wrote:According to the Western Mail I might get some of my wishes.
13 changes suggested by the never reliable paper:
"Reported Wales XV to face Georgia: L Williams; McNicholl, Tompkins, J Williams, Rees-Zammit; Sheedy, Hardy; Jones, Dee, Lee, Ball, Davies, Tipuric (capt), Botham, Wainwright."
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