6 Nations Review
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The good, the bad and the ugly
Summing up the 6N?
The good:
After years of pain the Murrayfield crowd finally managed to see Scotland winning and winning well at home.
The back division. Consistently the most dangerous attacking unit over the tournament.
The team as a whole but individuals who stood out:
Fagerson
Brown
Watson
Grey x 2
Russel
Hogg
The bad:
The Twickenham experience that exposed the team's psychological fragility.
The scrum at times.
Not beating a limited French team.
The ugly:
England game.
The good:
After years of pain the Murrayfield crowd finally managed to see Scotland winning and winning well at home.
The back division. Consistently the most dangerous attacking unit over the tournament.
The team as a whole but individuals who stood out:
Fagerson
Brown
Watson
Grey x 2
Russel
Hogg
The bad:
The Twickenham experience that exposed the team's psychological fragility.
The scrum at times.
Not beating a limited French team.
The ugly:
England game.
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6 Nations Review
Strange tournament in many ways with every team (bar Italy) being a bit inconsistent. For anyone who cares what I think I'd say:
Ireland - great final win but will perhaps be most disappointed given the expectations. If their forwards get on top of you they can bully you but very little cutting edge in the backs though Ringrose came onto a game. I just expected Schmidt to have broadened their game by now
Scotland - Now a serious contender in any matchand only team to score at least two tries a match. Still got the one serious weakness when up against real powerhouse packs and the defence all round is shaky. The hammering against England put a bit of a sour taste on what was a good tournament for us
England - One complete performance against us and the deserving winners but Im not sure anyone (apart from us) will be that scared of facing them just now. Massive strength in depth and more to come from the backs. Probs favourites for the next few years.
France - On the verge I think but I always think that. Some great moments and immense power up front but can look so disjointed.
Wales - Just haven't moved on. Great defence and some good players but I think you just need more nowadays. Can't score when they are on top and dont really counter attack. Need a change.
Italy - For all the talk of Conor O'Shea I actually think this is the worst Italy team I have seen. Just not as many good players as previously and no more clued up. Pack is average and backs pretty clueless and just collapse in second half. Doesnt help not having a semi competent kicker either
Ireland - great final win but will perhaps be most disappointed given the expectations. If their forwards get on top of you they can bully you but very little cutting edge in the backs though Ringrose came onto a game. I just expected Schmidt to have broadened their game by now
Scotland - Now a serious contender in any matchand only team to score at least two tries a match. Still got the one serious weakness when up against real powerhouse packs and the defence all round is shaky. The hammering against England put a bit of a sour taste on what was a good tournament for us
England - One complete performance against us and the deserving winners but Im not sure anyone (apart from us) will be that scared of facing them just now. Massive strength in depth and more to come from the backs. Probs favourites for the next few years.
France - On the verge I think but I always think that. Some great moments and immense power up front but can look so disjointed.
Wales - Just haven't moved on. Great defence and some good players but I think you just need more nowadays. Can't score when they are on top and dont really counter attack. Need a change.
Italy - For all the talk of Conor O'Shea I actually think this is the worst Italy team I have seen. Just not as many good players as previously and no more clued up. Pack is average and backs pretty clueless and just collapse in second half. Doesnt help not having a semi competent kicker either
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Re: The good, the bad and the ugly
Oops sorry, can probs combine my thread with this
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At best the only consolation Italy can take is that they led at half time against England and Wales, but they really do have a mountain to climb. They can be a pain and make life difficult for the opposition for a while but lack the skill, experience and resources to be competitive. France still have issues. For all the talk of rediscovering their flair, and despite the talent packed into the backs, they looked clueless with ball in hand most of the time, and also boasted the naffest kit of the lot.
Odd that Scotland has gone in a few years from the team that can't score tries to being the best team at scoring tries in Europe.
Odd that Scotland has gone in a few years from the team that can't score tries to being the best team at scoring tries in Europe.
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Re: 6 Nations Review
Hogg player of the tournament
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Thought he would deserve it a lot more this year than last.
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Really good for him and Scottish rugby. Bit surprised not because I don't think he's been a star I just thought people would refrain from giving it to same guy in successive years.
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I can't wait to read that people think Farrell should have got it.
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Like who..? I'm actually very surprised that Itoje only got 1.7% of the vote.Mikey Brown wrote:I can't wait to read that people think Farrell should have got it.
Russell did pretty well with 8.4%
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Well that's just going to make it even more annoying when halfpenny starts for the lions.
Hate to think what Scotlands backline would look like without him.
Have to say harsh on Launchbarry who i thought was excellent in every game and who i would have given it to.
Hate to think what Scotlands backline would look like without him.
Have to say harsh on Launchbarry who i thought was excellent in every game and who i would have given it to.
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I didn't mean people on here particularly, but journos in general seem to jizz all over him.hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Like who..? I'm actually very surprised that Itoje only got 1.7% of the vote.Mikey Brown wrote:I can't wait to read that people think Farrell should have got it.
Russell did pretty well with 8.4%
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I wouldn't even have had him on my short list. Although my shortlist would only have been 3 or 4 max 5 players.hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Like who..? I'm actually very surprised that Itoje only got 1.7% of the vote.Mikey Brown wrote:I can't wait to read that people think Farrell should have got it.
Russell did pretty well with 8.4%
Winning a fan vote shouldn't have any impact on Lions selection. There are several things that will be annoying if he doesn't make the Lions test team for anything bar form/injury issues but winning a fans vote shouldn't be one of them. The SRU were very visible on social media looking for votes.switchskier wrote:Well that's just going to make it even more annoying when halfpenny starts for the lions.
Hate to think what Scotlands backline would look like without him.
Have to say harsh on Launchbarry who i thought was excellent in every game and who i would have given it to.
We'd absolutely miss Hogg in attack, he is capable of great things but our backs are still pretty sharp 9-14 and in some cases very bright attacking talents in there own right. It is a disservice to them IMO to imply otherwise.