SF1: New Zealand v Canada; Friday, 7.00pm; BBC2

[Which Tyler]

Ref: Aimee Barrett-Theron
TJs: Aurelie Groizeleau, Ella Goldsmith
TMO: Quinton Immelman

New Zealand:
1. Chryss Viliko
2. Georgia Ponsonby
3. Tanya Kalounival
4. Maiakawanakaulani Roos
5. Alana Bremner
6. Liana Mikaele-Tu’u
7. Kennedy Tukuafu
8. Kaipo Olsen-Baker

09. Risaleaana Pouri-Lane
10. Ruahei Demant
11. Portia Woodman-Wickliffe
12. Sylvia Brunt
13. Stacey Waaka
14. Braxton Sorensen-McGee
15. Renee Holmes

16. Atlanta Lolohea, 17. Kate Henwood, 18. Amy Rule, 19. Chelsea Bremner, 20. Layla Sae
21. Maia Joseph, 22. Theresa Setefano, 23. Ayesha Leti-I’iga


Canada:
1. McKinley Hunt
2. Emily Tuttosi
3. DaLeaka Menin
4. Sophie de Goede
5. Courtney O'Donnell
6. Caroline Crossley
7. Karen Paquin
8. Fabiola Forteza

09. Justine Pelletier
10. Taylor Perry
11. Asia Hogan-Rochester
12. Alexandra Tessier
13. Florence Symonds
14. Alysha Corrigan
15. Julia Schell

16. Gillian Boag, 17. Brittany Kassil, 18. Olivia DeMerchant, 19. Tyson Beukeboom, 20. Laetitia Royer, 21. Gabrielle Senft
22. Olivia Apps, 23. Shoshanah Seumanutafa

[morepork]

Sucks that Jorja Miller is out with injury. Hopefully back in the mix if the ferns can beat Canada.

[paddy no 11]

Canadian 9 is just running the show here

[morepork]

Faaarrk.

[Which Tyler]

Sorry porker, but I'm loving this

[morepork]

Sorry porker, but I'm loving this

You are such a little bitch. Canada owning this.

[Which Tyler]

What do you expect from a scrum half?
If anyone can adapt and come back though, NZ can

[Which Tyler]

Ah, advantage, I take back what I'd started typing.
Take the 3!

[Which Tyler]

Comm.s saying "the only time you'll hear boo.s aimed at Sophie DeGoede"
There weren't any boo.s, because the crowd can do 12+3, and know what that means in rugby - unlike the commentators, apparently.

[paddy no 11]

De Goede is basically john eales?

[Which Tyler]

These bloody commentators making out like Canada winning is such a huge upset, like they've not watched them (or RWC21), or seen the rankings table.

[morepork]

Totally deserved. No complaints here. Not exactly a surprise upset either.

[Mr Mwenda]

Canadee-i-o!!!! True north strong and free! If I had a million dollars... Due South... Etc! Family chat is pretty darn happy now. Hard luck nz

[Mr Mwenda]

These bloody commentators making out like Canada winning is such a huge upset, like they've not watched them (or RWC21), or seen the rankings table.

Yeah, but I think people expected it to be closer. I did!

[fivepointer]

Canada were excellent. They are ranked #2 and have played impressively so far so it was hardly an upset.

[CunningPunter]

Hang on, we're repeatedly told, in commentary and in BBC articles, that "New Zealand have not lost a knock-out game since 1991".

Well, if that were the case, surely they would have won every tournament? They were beateni in the quarter-final by Ireland in 2014, so doesn't that count as a knock-out game?

[Which Tyler]

2014 didn't have a QF stage.
Ireland did beat NZ in the 2nd match, not even the final pool match.
NZ then went on to win the Plate stage SF and F to finish 5th.

Oh, and no-one you absolutely can win every knock out game you play, whilst not winning the title - because pol stages are a thing.

[CunningPunter]

Thanks for the reminder - of course there were only 12 teams in 2014, so no QF.

I was thinking "knock-out" meant QF and SF (and arguably Final), but I suppose the situation can turn a pool game into effectively a knock-out game, depending on the state of the pool.

[Which Tyler]

Final definitely counts as "knock out"
And yes, a final pool match can be an effective knock out, but not an actual knock out - 2014 doesn't count though, as it was the 2nd of 3 pool weekends